Talk:Dragon Quest VII/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Development section

A good part of the current introduction paragraphs could be placed under the Development category, plus, the current Development section includes info that may not be relevant to the game (the one about Dragon Quest IV on the booklet) or could be integrated to other sections (the part about N64). I took out the mention of Arus's name in the manga and placed it on a section dedicated to Warriors of Eden.

I am not very experienced at this part of video game articles, so I ask for advice and/ or help of someone with more experience. Icecypher 18:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Dq7worldmap.jpg

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Fair use rationale for Image:Dragonwarrior7cover.jpg

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About That Link

Reagrding that link I put (I will not post it again), 144.118.211.191 said it is not illegal. I am confused if it's not illegal then why was it removed for being illegal? I just wanted to know if I got the right game! —Preceding unsigned comment added by xy.123.xyz.abc (talk) 18:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

How is it not illegal to link to a place where you can download the game?—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 19:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Ask 144.118.211.191 that... Anyways, so that is the game then? Or no it isn't it's just hash. I dont know I am just passing information down that was given to me... —Preceding unsigned comment added by xy.123.xyz.abc (talk) 18:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Sry I put Tkynerd it was 144.118.211.191.

Removed the last sentence of the "Reception" section

"This is the same sort of bias which was expressed in regards to the Playstation ports of the Lunar series, but waived with the GBA ports of the Final Fantasy series." sentences such as these are seemingly both unverifiable and, thus, also break NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.237.94.3 (talk) 18:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

consistency in naming

is non existent. In the first chapter after the intro it starts off referring to it as Dragon Quest VII, then compares to Dragon Warrior 4 (fair enough) but then starts calling this game Dragon Warrior VII. This needs sorting. Not sure which way though chocobogamer mine 11:42, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dragon Warrior VII/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Red Phoenix (talk · contribs) 01:50, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

This article came up for review at WP:GAN. It looks like it's been waiting a while... well, let's see if we can rectify that. I'll go through this a criterion at a time and evaluate how well the article meets the standards.

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
I caught an issue with spacing in one word, so I went ahead and just touched that up really quick. Having read the article over thoroughly, I believe the article does meet the manual of style in the five areas necessary to meet 1b. As I read the article, I only found one real issue I have with the prose, and that's that the manga subsection doesn't need to be two paragraphs. I will consider it as having passed 1a, but I recommend that these two paragraphs be merged. Everything else read very well, and meets the "reasonably well written" condition.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
I checked the references, and I have no reason to believe any of them are unreliable. Use of IGN is excellent since it's a WP:VG/S acknowledged reliable source, and everything else appears to be suitable and reliable for what they source.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It's very nice to read an RPG article where the plot is kept somewhat thin. Usually when I review RPG articles, I consider plot and characters as one block, gameplay as another, development as a third, and reception as a fourth. As I read it, all four of these are very nicely kept in balance, and each is covered in depth. Development and reception are deep enough; plot and gameplay are shallow enough, and nothing appears to leave any important details out. Very well balanced and meets 3 perfectly.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
Good balance in the reception section. Point of view doesn't seem to be an issue.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
No edits since May 27th; should definitely be stable.
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Only two images, both fair use because this is an article about a copyrighted work. That meets criteria 6 to me.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
Wow, well done! I think we can directly pass this to GA status. Keep up the good work!

Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...} 02:33, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Square-Enix is listening to their western fans for localization

So this could be a big turning point in getting this game to the west.

The first news comes from Siliconera, it's dated 31 August 2014. In an interview with Fujimoto he has stated that he's listening to western pledges and here's a quote: “In terms of DQVII, it has a lot of text to go through and translate,” Fujimoto said, “and we’ve received so many requests and so much positive feedback about the game, but unfortunately, we have to consider the cost and the manpower needed to handle the sheer load of text. In terms of scenario and script, the game is probably one of the largest in the DQ franchise. If a lot of people can buy it and support it… well, we can’t promise anything.” “From Dragon Quest VIII and beyond, we’ve revamped the translation,” Fujimoto explained. “For example, we’ve added regional twangs like those from Baltic regions sounding Russian and things like that. We’ve also updated the spells and monster names, so any classic titles we revisit, we want to say consistent. That being said, when we go back and update the classic titles, we make these changes. That’s another step in the process.” “Going back to people who want DQVII to come out… we’ve gotten a lot of requests, we really want to do it, but right now, we need to hammer out what kind of resources we’d need to do it. We say this a lot, but, we can’t seem to get to the point where it’s justifiable.”

Here is a link to it: http://www.siliconera.com/2014/08/31/square-enix-want-bring-dragon-quest-vii-3ds-west-arent-sure-itll-sell-enough/

The second one is date 2 September 2014 and comes from USGamer. Hajime Tabata talks about various arguments but when it he's turn to talk about Dragon Quest VII, he shows he's been following the topic lately (so confrimation of the team trying to look for localization costs) and he goes way beyond expected and talks about fans petitions: Square Enix has heard the fans, though. In discussing the demand for Dragon Quest VII, executive producer Yuu Miyake goes so far as to hold up a printout of one letter: "This petition came from France, written in Japanese, asking, 'Is there any way you would consider it?' We hear the fans, and we're paying attention. We had actually given up on the idea of localization altogether, but because there's such a great response we're trying to rethink this, to see if there's any way to make this more feasible. We're recalculating, and figuring out the costs necessary. Trying to work out the details." Then conversations shifts on about DQ not selling in the western market, but it's a little flawed argument because since the DS and 3DS came out that has really turned around, the petitions are demonstration of that.

Link: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/your-voice-matters-dragon-quest-final-fantasy

So, takes this into consideration, at least if really gets confrimed this would be a good starting point to figure when things really got a positive turn. Let's admit it, it's now or never. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.26.131.165 (talk) 23:12, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 9 July 2016

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The result of the move request was: moved. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:38, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Dragon Quest VII: Fragments of the Forgotten Past → Dragon Quest VII – The 3DS subtitles are different. 2A02:C7D:564B:D300:3C1A:53BD:793E:CDDC (talk) 11:44, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Please note that the nonimator is blocked for block evasion and a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 115#Dragon Quest subtitles in the page name had a consensus to use subtitles.--174.91.187.80 (talk) 03:13, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Support move. (1) There was no such "consensus" at that link, 174.91. (2) Even clearer than the other DQ cases, our sources here are virtually unanimous in calling this topic "Dragon Quest VII" without the subtitle. It can be kept in the lede as the official name, but there's no reason to keep it in the title per the article title naming criteria policy. The shorter name, in this case, is the most recognizable (the name most people will call it), natural (reflecting what it's usually called), precise (unambiguously identified), and concise (not longer than necessary to identify). We would need a whole lot more sources that use the subtitle prominently in order to warrant the longer title vis-à-vis the naming criteria. czar 01:28, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

There is inconsistency in the page titles of DQ games here. Some have the official subtitles while others don't. I suggest that all titles should be unified. Right now, DQ2, 3, and 7 don't have their official subtitles. By contradicting logic, DQ4 was originally released without a subtitle, yet its page has the one of the DS remake. Here's the thing. There is no English release of the game that is just called "Dragon Quest VII". It's either Warrior VII or Quest VII Subtitle --MK (talk) 16:30, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

The question is the name by which it is known best, not by how the latest release phrases it. And the other pages were already unified to remove the subtitle by the time you wrote this comment. czar 16:20, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

New interview

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/true-tales-from-localization-hell/page-5

czar 03:14, 5 August 2016 (UTC)