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Calling her "Gordon" is confusing.

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Calling her "Gordon" is confusing because that is her husband's name. Either stick with Thomas or use her given name. Don't call her by different names, especially when it leads to confusion with her husband. 188.76.175.230 (talk) 10:49, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry you feel that way, but your statement makes little sense and I am unable to find any policy which would apply. Every woman who has ever taken her husband's surname upon marriage has the same name as her spouse. She previously had a different surname. As this practice was even legislated into the late 20th century and continues throughout the world, it isn't something that in general causes confusion. People know that before marriage women may have had a different name. The whole point of the lawsuit was that she did call herself Gordon, so it would be illogical to call her Thomas. Her husband is referred to throughout by his first name, to make it clear who is who. Thus, there is no reason to call her by her first name or by a surname other than what she used. SusunW (talk) 15:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Because two different people are being called by the same name Gordon in the article and this can lead to confusion as to which one is being referred to. Several times I have had to stop reading and figure out what Gordon, husband or wife, is being referred to. I do not believe her husband is always referred to by his first name, or I am misinterpreting some phrases which I believe refer to him. I do not think including the first name when there is possibility of confusion is unreasonable but whatever. And the notion that women always take their husband's name "throughout the world" is patently false. Every time I try to contribute to Wikipedia I end up regretting it so it happens more infrequently. Again, Whatever. I will try to remember to abstain. 188.76.175.230 (talk) 17:17, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have reread again and found only 1 instance where John was not specifically identified by his given name (and that instance was prior to their marriage), but based on your comment, I changed that wording to John. In all other instances throughout, Gordon refers to her. I did not state that women always take their husband's surname, I said that it was a common practice still today and previously had been required in some places, thus should not cause confusion. Sorry that you have difficulty contributing on the platform. It is a collaborate platform and requires that we all AGF contributions and communicate civilly. If you feel that I was not civil or did not adequately consider your comments, please accept my sincere apologies. SusunW (talk) 17:41, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dollar Academy 'near Glasgow'?

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This is a minor nitpick but this article says Dollar Academy is 'near Glasgow' which doesn't seem to be the case. I'm also curious about the dates, as it says they started attending in 1810 but the school was founded in 1818. I'm not able to access the source as it's behind a paywall, does anyone know what it says? I feel like I must be missing something. FeelingDizzy (talk) 23:18, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FeelingDizzy International Life Writing p. 9 states that in 1810 Dolly took her children to Europe to attend school. "Doll Thomas sailed to England with her son Henry and youngest daughter Christina, and several slave servants, as well as her Coxall, Farraway and Fulton grandchildren. The boys were enrolled in the Dollar Academy outside Glasgow, while Christina and the granddaughters went to a finishing school in London". Candlin and Pybus p 118 states that in April 1810 Dorothy Thomas took 19 of her Coxall, Fullerton, Garraway, Robertson and Simon grandchildren to Britain for an education. On page 119, it states that her grandsons were enrolled in a Scottish school and her granddaughters at Kensington House. I have no clue, source says 1810 and outside Glasgow, unless you have another source, then our rules require that we report what sourcing says. But if you have a source that counters this info, we can certainly discuss. SusunW (talk) 06:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]