Talk:Donald Duck

Move protection

I logged in and saw just article, discussion, edit this page, history and watch. This should be move protected and have a lime padlock. GreyMatterEchoUKfan (talk) 12:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Image

My message got lost in the archives, so I'm re-sending it: I think the image on the top is not encyclopedic. It seems to be one of the gazillions of quite recent promotional material. We should replace it with one which is historically significant, and possibly one for which we know the original author. I could provide a candidate for comics, but I'm not sure I can convince you that Donald comics are as famous as Donald cartoons... so maybe we need one from a cartoon (model-sheet or something else?). There are some nice illustrations in the 1940s "DD's life" book. Or maybe we can pick up a Hannah or Barks drawing from the late 1930s. Lerichard (talk) 01:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, we should Disneycrazy2k (talk) 20:17, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Maybe my message is useless, but in French Wikipedia we use https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:The_Spirit_of_43-Donald_Duck,_cropped_version.jpg, which seems to be in public domain. Wikilove. Tarap (talk) 02:34, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

But it's just his face.★Trekker (talk) 02:36, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

I wrote too quickly (waouh ! I just notice you answered even quicker !). If it is the same as https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Donald_Duck_-_The_Spirit_of_%2743_(cropped_version).jpg , we'll need to ckeck this… Tarap (talk) 02:44, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Wish there was a public domain full body picture of him.★Trekker (talk) 02:47, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Donald Duck was made before Mickey — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexMoore7 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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IN EXTERNAL LINKS, you should add this extraordinary site - Edit request from 90.21.56.195, 23 September 2010

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• Duckstories Carl Barks and Don Rosa's stories and characters database (in English) (in French)

90.21.56.195 (talk) 07:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Welcome. Wikipedia does not include external links to fansites. Please see WP:ELNO, particularly #11. Celestra (talk) 15:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC) Qua-qua-quaaaaack!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.233.130.0 (talk) 16:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Age of Donald Duck

As his age and birthdays are a common amniversary in the international magazines devoted to Donald Duck and Disney, I'd like to suggest an age parameter on the Donald Duck page. You know, the regular birth-date-and-age parameter. I would have already done it if it weren't for the thought that it might come off as ridiculous to some; Donald Duck is a fictional character after all. Any thoughts before I go on with this? Good reasons not to? --Olijven (talk) 15:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's a good idea. First, age parameters should be reserved for real people. Second, it's dubious to say Donald was born on June 9, 1934, even though Disney often celebrates it as his birthday: The Donald Duck of the cartoons and comics (a) has never aged and (b) definitely isn't 76 years old. 96T (talk) 15:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Let's leave it at that then.--Olijven (talk) 21:33, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Donald Duck has the most identifable voice of any character?

Donald's voice, one of the most identifiable voices in all of animation, was performed by voice actor Clarence "Ducky" Nash up to his death in 1985. Yeah are you sure that Donald Duck has the most identifiable voice in all of animation? Are you basing this on a statistic or fact or is this just your own oppinion. Your really not suppose to express your own oppinion in a Wikipedia article since your trying to come off as biased. I would suggest deleting this information.-James Pandora Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.143.84 (talk) 23:40, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Have you listened to Donald? It's certainly "one of the most identifiable", although there are plenty of others that are unique and identifiable. Maybe it would suffice to say "Donald's unique voice..." instead. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:04, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

When will Donald Duck be in the public domain?

Anyone who knows this? -Oddeivind (talk) 20:23, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Donald's third voice

Donald Duck was also voiced (his inner voice only) by voice actor Leslie Denison, who did a mean Ronald Coleman impersonation. Donald's Double Trouble (1946) was one of these. He's uncredited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.35.29 (talk) 01:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

That wasn't Donald, just another duck who looked just like him. In Donald's Dilemma his voice really does change, but even then it's not a regular voice. Maybe it's still worth adding somewhere, but not in the infobox. Pigby (talk) 04:00, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Dick Lundy as co-creator?

The article says Donald Duck was created by Walt Disney and Dick Lundy. But from what I've read elsewhere, Lundy did not come up with the idea for Donald; he was not even the first person to design, draw, or animate the character. Instead Lundy animated Donald in Orphan's Benefit in which Donald's personality was more or less defined. Even still, Lundy's work seems to be reflective of Clarence Nash's performance. Nothing against Mr. Lundy, but it seems to me he was more of a character developer like Jack King or Jack Hannah. Maybe even a more significant one, but not a creator.

Anyway, that's just my thoughts. But I'm curious if there's any heroic Disney historian out there who wants to weigh in on the issue. :) Pigby (talk) 00:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you for bringing up the subject. Donald Duck was designed by Disney's sketch designer Albert Hurter (born 1888 in Switzerland), according to the Cartoon Research site

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Health?? The Shark in Sea Scouts is not from Finding Nemo

Someone is obviously fooling around with this article. This quote under the heading "Health" is incorrect. Someone please fix it.

"The shark was very lonesome already, since his wife had left him for Bruce from Finding Nemo. He eventually turned to alcohol and wasted all of his pay on his hourly nip. Donald's punch was the last straw, and the sharks liver gave way with the impact, a consequence his doctor had warned him of long before. His wife eventually remarried to Bruce, but divorced once he started eating fish again. And so was the tale of the poor shark." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.0.121.99 (talk) 15:25, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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Darkwing Duck-reference

I deleted following out-of-place sentence: NOTE:During a Darkwing Duck episode a star is scorned and everyone thinks Darkwing is Donald. He later dresses up like Donald to sneak in with Goslyn dressed as Huey. (see history)
Maybe someone can/will work that into the article again in the proper place. Regards, Mottengott (talk) 18:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Mascot?!

Donald Duck isn't the "de facto mascot" of Disney, MICKEY is!!!! DUH. 66.105.218.3 (talk) 09:53, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Next time, you can just remove such information yourself. Powers ^T 23:37, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

In some countries, like Italy perhaps, Donald can be considered the mascot, because he has eventually became more popular than Mickey, having appeared in more films and comics than him. LocalContributor281 (talk) 03:24, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

This Donald Duck meme should have been never made!

Why are users adding this Donald Duck meme to this article? This meme was created by the user on tweeter. It's fan-made not real. I dislike this meme because it ruined Donald and other Disney characters and non Disney characters. Yes, I hate memes. -- Nectaria 09:31, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

If reliable sources have noted its existence, then we should too, regardless of your personal feelings on the matter. Powers ^T 18:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You should better check the history page. Many IP users vandalized the article with the Donald Duck meme and other users reverts the vandals. This meme is not needed in this article. -- Nectaria 11:14, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

It is if reliable sources have noted its existence. Powers ^T 13:33, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Just because it can be reliably sourced, which is actually questionable at this point, does not confirm notability. Wikipedia is not a random collection of information. merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. This looks like a bit of random trivia. There have been many parodies of Disney characters over the years, and one is no more notable than another. So unless there is proof that this particular parody has received extraordinary amount of attention, which is doubtful, it should stay out of the article. --JOJ ^Hutton 14:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

It is not true that "one is no more notable than another". Surely each has its own level of notability? Powers ^T 19:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

There is no reason to think that this parody rises above the notability of others. It's sourced, but it's notability is questionable.--JOJ ^Hutton 21:26, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I completely agree, and have never stated otherwise. Powers ^T 13:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

I know that there are many Disney characters parodies like in american comics and TV Shows. OK, thanks for your answers. -- Nectaria 20:00, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if it's relevant yet, but Dolan has become one of the most popular memes out there. It's the one everyone "loves to hate" and if it gets any bigger it would definitely need a section in this article. Just because it's about a meme with atrocious grammar, doesn't make it vandalism. --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 19:27, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

It only needs a section if reliable sources have taken to mentioning it when covering Donald. Powers ^T 21:03, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

 Already done After a month months and days of no improvement and no notability has asserted by the subject, the section was already removed. Mediran ^t|c 23:43, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

That's odd just because humor isn't allowed on wikipedia it's not quite wise to say 'Dolan meme should have been never made'. Ravenlord5150 (talk) 14:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

• Such as "that quaquaversal duck with his quaquaversal quack"? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:21, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Frequent Vandalism

Since this page is frequently vandalized maybe a lock should be put on it. Good idea? --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 23:26, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Wartime Donald section

In the Wartime Donald section, the article mentions a seven film mini-series about Donald's life in the Army, but only lists six titles: Donald Gets Drafted, The Vanishing Private, Sky Trooper, Fall Out Fall In, The Old Army Game, and Commando Duck. Does anyone know the seventh film? Elsquared (talk) 06:51, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Jerry Lewis in France

"The Wall Street Journal called Donald Duck "The Jerry Lewis of Germany", a reference to American star Jerry Lewis' popularity in France." -> Allegation and urban legend ; Jerry Lewis isn't actually popular in France and never was. I know that's the Wall Street Journal own words, but you're not obligated to take it for granted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.229.6.141 (talk) 10:28, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2014

203.185.51.241 (talk) 01:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC) Delete all semi-protected pages

Not done: Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Joe Allen: Another voice actor?

The BBC have a documentary radio programme "This is the Army, Mr Jones", on the subject of the WWII U.S. armed forces’ stage-show written by, and featuring Irving Berlin, ''This is the Army'', which features extracts from a November 25th 1943 BBC broadcast of a performance in London. One of the extracts (at about 26'30") is the compere John Watt introducing a section, in which he says that various impersonations of Hollywood stars will take place, apart from one which was - he said - to be done by the original artist. He proceeds to introduce on microphone a gentleman called Pvt. Joe Allen (or Alan - spelling isn’t given), who it is said to be the original voice of Donald Duck, and who then recites “Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star” in character as Donald. As this was an important show, sponsored and staged by the U.S. Army, it seems odd that they would create a lie out of whole cloth for no real purpose (in a cavalcade of impressions, why pick out that one as “real”?). So was Allen/ Alan/ whatever a genuine Disney voice-artist, and the original Donald? Jock123 (talk) 14:01, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Joe Allen was an Irish tenor who toured at least as late as 1948, billing himself (presumptuously and misleadingly) as "The Original Voice of Donald Duck." On occasion journalists would elaborate that he had voiced early Disney cartoons--an interesting assumption since Allen was born circa 1920. An article titled "Joe Allen of WFAA" in the July l940 issue of "Radio Varieties" (July 1940 issue, Midwest Edition, page 16) explains: "During last summer, Allen . . . visited the Walt Disney Studios and amazed the famous artist and Charles Duckworth [sic], who does the Donald Duck voice for the films featuring the hot-tempered webfoot, by greeting them in a very authentic Donald Duck voice. "He developed the Donald Duck voice, however, before the famous duck was even a blob of ink on Disney's imaginative pen. He used the falsetto voice as a young boy when he discovered that his favorite horse, Foxey, would come to him immediately when he called in the strange tones. "Several years later Disney brought out Donald and Allen was immediately dubbed Donald's vocal twin. He sometimes does an imitation of Donald as an encore on a stage appearance and it always brings down the house." Bentruwe (talk) 21:47, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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Daniel Ross

the voice actors section in the infobox and down below needs to be updated. It's been confirmed that actor Daniel Ross will voice Donald in the upcoming series Mickey and the Roadster Racers, taking Anselmo's place for this show only. 2600:1000:B02F:AB74:A9DE:56A4:A573:ACFA (talk) 18:51, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Sources: http://www.chipandco.com/mickey-roadster-racers-dvd-march-7th-255811/, http://www.disneyabcpress.com/disneyjunior/pressrelease/fact-sheet/

Can Somebody please get rid of Daniel Ross he is not the third voice of Donald Duck? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:BFC0:101:F117:9D37:D04F:F849:74E1 (talk) 20:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

please please please please Respond? are you guys busy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:BFC0:101:F117:3DCF:3E40:8727:EF4B (talk) 00:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Rob Paulsen

Rob Paulsen did work on Disney's PK: Out of the Shadows, as shown in the credits. See also here. --Newblackwhite (talk) 22:01, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2017

I would like to request an edit at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck#Appearances

The following line has an error: officially recognized by the Walt Disney Company as Donald's birthday[12] despite a couple in-universe contradictions.[13]

It should read officially recognized by the Walt Disney Company as Donald's birthday[12] despite a couple of in-universe contradictions.[13]

I would like to change the lack of an of with an of.

That is all.

I do not believe the edits made under this IP previously were mine either. 92.25.11.99 (talk) 15:52, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Done Sir Joseph ^(talk) 17:43, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST:
In Animation: Appearances, there is an error at citation 13. It currently reads "despite a couple in-universe contradictions.[13]" It should have an of inserted. Apologies if this is not the correct procedure to request an edit. I have not dealt with a locked page before now.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.11.99 (talk) 01:36, 12 March 2017 (UTC) 

I moved this 12 March duplicate request to here, from the top of the page. Alsee (talk) 21:24, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Donald the veteran

As Donald was consistently depicted as a member of the United States Army during World War II, and as this very page has an entire section on his wartime activities, should we add him to the categories "Fictional veterans of World War II" and "Fictional United States Army personnel"? --IJVin (talk) 05:28, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Not sure if it's super relevant but he also served in the US Navy in the Duck Tales show and he wears a sailor uniform all the time. I'd say he should be at least included in some veteran category.★Trekker (talk) 14:59, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Donald's fits of rage due to untreated PTSD from war trauma?

According to a very dark theory represented at this web page, https://coyotepr.uk/health/donald-duck-suffering-ptsd/, Donald suffers fron post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), which is due to his experiences in the World War Two. His behaviour clearly demonstrates all the classical symptoms of PTSD, and it is canonical he is a WWII veteran. See also https://cartoonoveranalyzations.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/diagnosis-donald-duck-suffers-from-ptsd/ and https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/439086-ruined-childhood

If that theory is valid, Donald is more a tragical character than funny. But he would also be the perfect mascot for all recovering veterans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.233.200.107 (talk) 12:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 October 2017

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Voices?

Should we change the way Donald is represented in "Voiced by"? The information provided with two men where the dates they did Donald Duck are a little confusing considering they both end with "Present". Disneycrazy2k (talk) 20:19, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Middle Name ?

In the TV Show"Legend of The Three Caballeros": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0c4k8SNR0I Donald Ducks full name is, Donald Fauntleroy Duck.--Brownshoes22 (talk) 11:47, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2018

In the Aliases section Paperinik (Italy) should be modified to Paperino (Italy). Paperinik in Italy is a different character of the same family. 2.35.76.63 (talk) 18:07, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done Not sure why it's necessary for the infobox but if we're going to have it it might as well be correct. "Paperino" matches the title at it.wiki. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 17:50, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2019

The voice actors section of Daniel Ross in the infobox needs to be corrected again, someone mistakenly added/changed it to "2017–2019" were it's suppose to say "2017–present". Because he still currently voices Donald as of today. 2600:1000:B02F:B2F3:88F0:CEDB:3EDA:7115 (talk) 04:02, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:25, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Unreferenced "History" section copied from fandom.com Wiki

An extensive "History" section, copied from https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Donald_Duck, was added in this recent edit: [1]. Apparently it's under a free CC-BY-SA license; a note was added about that here: [2].

The problem is that a public Wiki is not a reliable source, according to WP:UGC, and there are no citations of independent, reliable, secondary sources given. It doesn't seem to me like a good idea to accept this large amount of completely unreferenced material. The person who added it, JohnLickor372 is indefinitely blocked for repeatedly adding unsourced material (among other things), so they're not going to be any help improving it. I would propose to delete it, and if someone wants to find suitable sources, they can start to put some or all of it back. --IamNotU (talk) 20:04, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Twin??

Is Donald Duck a twin?? For some reason this article is in the "Fictional twins" category. Maitchy (talk) 22:58, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

He has a twin sister named Della Duck, which is the mother of his nephews Huey, Dewey, and Louie. So far, the only mention of her is in the part about the 2017 DuckTales series: "The series is also significant for marking the first time Donald has shared the screen with a number of his comic co-stars; examples include Della Duck and Gladstone Gander". More reference to her could be added in the future. Newblackwhite (talk) 07:06, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

First Appearance

As mentioned within the article itself, he did appear before The Wise Little Hen with his current name, except he wore different clothes. However, there is back-and-forth revision between the two appearances. If there are any objections, inform me on talk page. LocalContributor281 (talk) 03:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I object. There is a character in a 1931 storybook that's called "Donald Duck", but it's a throwaway alliterative name that appears along with other non-characters Carolyn Cow and Robert Rooster. The "Donald Duck" created in 1934 for The Wise Little Hen has no connection to that storybook. It's a cute fan-insider piece of trivia, but it's inaccurate to say that the character that we know as Donald Duck was created in 1931. Adding that to the infobox is undue weight that elevates a piece of throwaway trivia to the same level as the actual creation of the character, and we should not include it in the infobox. — Toughpigs (talk) 04:06, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

LocalContributor281 continues to insist that the 1931 children's book was Donald Duck's first appearance. This is not backed up by reliable sources.

Here are some of the published sources that say that 1934 was Donald Duck's debut.

• "Following his debut in the 1934 animated short The Wise Little Hen, the indefatigable Donal Duck needed four years and a champion within the Walt Disney Studio in order to make the leap from the silver screen to the nation's comic pages." -- Donald Duck: The Complete Daily Newspaper Comics vol 1, 1938-1940. IDW Publishing, 2015. Introduction by David Gerstein.
• "The ill-tempered Donald Duck made his debut in 1934 in Walt Disney's Silly Symphony cartoon, The Wise Little Hen." -- The Encyclopedia of Animated Cartoons: Third Edition by Jeff Lenburg. Checkmark Books, 2009.
• "Donald made his debut as a supporting character in The Wise Little Hen, one of the Silly Symphonies series, and then was showcased in Orphans' Benefit, in which he attempted to do his recitation before a jeering audience of mischievous mice-children." -- Of Mice and Magic: A History of American Animated Cartoons by Leonard Maltin. Plume Books, 1987.
• "Who could have guessed that these eight words, uttered in a 1934 short called The Wise Little Hen, would herald the arrival of one of the world's most popular and durable movie stars?" -- Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's Animated Characters by John Grant. Hyperion Press, 1998
• "The Wise Little Hen introduced the character of Donald Duck, marking the start of Clarence Nash's long association with the studio as the Duck's voice." -- Walt Disney's Silly Symphonies: A Companion to the Classic Cartoon Series by Russell Merritt and J.B. Kaufman. Disney Editions, 2016.
• "Donald Duck, introduced in March 1934 in The Wise Little Hen, was an indifferently designed fowl, a good example of how the shift toward greater realism could miscarry." -- Hollywood Cartoons: American Animation in Its Golden Age by Michael Barrier. Oxford University Press, 1999.
• "The Wise Little Hen introduced another voice talent and a new character who was, within a year, to challenge Mickey as Disney's star attraction... He debuts as a miserable creature, living on a ramshackle houseboat, who feigns a bellyache every time the Wise Little Hen asks him for assistance." -- The Art of Walt Disney: From Mickey Mouse to the Magic Kingdoms by Christopher Finch. Twin Books, 1988.
• "Donald's actual debut was in a cartoon called The Wise Little Hen." -- The Disney Films by Leonard Maltin. Crown Books, 1984.
• "Donald made his debut in a supporting role in The Wise Little Hen (1934), but came into his own in Orphans' Benefit (1934)." -- The Best of Disney by Neil Sinyard. Twin Books, 1988.

I would like LocalContributor281 to provide equivalent reliable sources for the 1931 book being Donald's first appearance. — Toughpigs (talk) 04:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@LocalContributor281 and Toughpigs: Can anyone elaborate on what actually appears in The Adventures of Mickey Mouse (1931)? Although I understand that the canonical Donald Duck debuted in 1934, is there a different Donald Duck that appeared in 1931? If so, what did this Donald Duck look like? Nosferattus (talk) 21:51, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

It looks like https://d23.com/donald-duck-early-appearance/ has all the info about this earlier "Donald Duck". According to this article, which is published by the Walt Disney company itself (as D23 is a Disney property): "As fans of Disney Ducks will tell you, Donald Duck made his first appearance in the 1934 animated short The Wise Little Hen. But three years earlier, in 1931, the name “Donald Duck” appeared in the storybook The Adventures of Mickey Mouse. Donald looked a little different in those days, though. Aside from his jaunty green hat on the back cover, it might also be the last time he was seen wearing pants!" It seems like it would be worth adding some mention of this earlier Donald Duck to the article just to eliminate the confusion. When searching Google, there were numerous sites claiming that this was the first appearance of Donald Duck. If we just ignore this completely, it is likely that other well-meaning editors will continue to come by and "correct" the article. Nosferattus (talk) 22:10, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for asking about it. I agree that it should be mentioned somewhere, if only to clarify that that's not really the "Donald Duck" that we know. In my opinion, the appropriate place would be in the "Children's books" section, which lists appearances in kids' books. What do you think? Toughpigs (talk) 19:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Toughpigs: That would work. It could even just be a note for the first sentence of the section. Nosferattus (talk) 18:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good idea. Do you want to go ahead and add it? Toughpigs (talk) 18:14, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Lead image nominated for deletion

Please note, the authorship and provenance of the main infobox image seems to be unknown; the file has been nominated for deletion. May be a good time to find a different image with clearer provenance. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 20:22, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Done. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:52, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

1934 redirection

1934 . . . in standard format perhaps may not be descriptive enough with growing numbers of foreign users of Wikipedia outside of Western culture. Not A.D., but redirection to the reference of the year 1934 I20sc (talk) 14:46, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@I20sc: I see no pressing need for this. The countries where a different calendar is standard have a Wikipedia in their own language. When reading an English text, Gregorian calendar dates are to be expected. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:55, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Lead image

@Fastily, Peteforsyth, Toughpigs, Aspects, and WhatAMelon35: the lead image has been File:Donald Duck angry transparent background.png [3] since December 2020. Now it has been changed to File:Donald Duck blue sailor shirt transparent background.png which the uploader says was found on https://www.donaldduck.nl/puzzels/ but I can't find it. It's also found on Bruna, which is a legit store. (Audax Groep#Bruna)

I have a promise to fulfill however, in December I said : If I ever stumble upon it I'll let you know. Well, here it is! (and here it is again, mirrored without color)

So now there are three images to choose from. Perhaps we should just go back to the (currently deleted) image we had for years. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:30, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I would much rather have the image of Donald in a happier mood. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 21:21, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Brian K. Tyler, I'd be okay with requesting undeletion of File:Donald Duck.svg. The uploader of File:Donald Duck blue sailor shirt transparent background.png (WhatAMelon35) has been blocked so the edges on that won't be fixed. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:27, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I request the undeletion of the previous image because I just don’t like the angry image of Donald Duck. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 21:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I've checked and found File:Donald Duck blue sailor shirt transparent background.png to have multiple accuracy issues. It's unusable. So we have two choices: the current angry Donald or request undeletion of File:Donald Duck.svg. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:25, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, if you ask me, the current image is even less accurate. Donald's signature sailor suit is almost always blue and rarely black. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 22:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Request undeletion of File:Donald Duck.svg. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 22:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Do you mean to tell me that the current image of Donald's angry look that obviously came from a comic strip is the only option there is? Brian K. Tyler (talk) 05:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Brian K. Tyler, I'm awaiting more comments before I bother an admin to request undeletion of File:Donald Duck.svg. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:25, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I have seen no accuracy issues in the previously deleted image whatsoever. It's simply more pleasant looking than the current image. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 01:20, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Brian K. Tyler, File:Donald Duck.svg had no source whatsoever when it was deleted, File:Donald Duck blue sailor shirt transparent background.png appears to be doctored. (and it was uploaded by a blocked user who is known for doing that) And since nobody else has participated in this discussion, it would appear that not many people care much either way what image we use. If others spoke up I'd request undeletion of File:Donald Duck.svg, but so far nobody did. Donald is famous for his temper so the current image is perfectly representative in that regard. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:06, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Brian K. Tyler, Horizons 1: I've re-checked File:Donald Duck.svg and sadly it's not 100% identical to [4] [5]. Color issues and a few lines are drawn differently. And the image from donaldduck.nl can't be extracted because part of the background is black. File:Donald Duck blue sailor shirt transparent background.png isn't accurate either. (similar issues) Our choices: 1. Do nothing, continue using File:Donald Duck angry transparent background.png. 2. Use File:Donald Duck - temper.png as the lead image as Horizons 1 did in some revision. 3. Accept an image without a transparent background (will be much easier to find). 4. Find a better image with proper source yourself. If you'd like the second option and want me to go looking, give me a ping. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:57, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz, I've seen the accuracy issue of File:Donald Duck blue sailor shirt transparent background.png (The shading of his sleeve). But it's very minor compared to the fully black sailor suit in File:Donald Duck angry transparent background.png. And it's much more pleasant to look at. Furthermore, it's clearly been drawn by the same artist of File:Daisy Duck Duckipedia.png, which is use as the current lead image of the Daisy Duck article. And I see hardly any other issues. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 23:24, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz And to be honest, File:Donald Duck angry transparent background.png image just looks really ugly when compared to File:Donald Duck blue sailor shirt transparent background.png. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 23:24, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz and Brian K. Tyler, I think I found a solution that would take on both sides, having an image that shows Donald in his typical blue outfit scheme, and one that falls under correct fair use. This image was used back in 2020, but got deleted, due to a dispute. Here it is: 1 Crunchydough (talk) 17:42, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Crunchydough, unsourced, no use. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:09, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz Found a website that uses the image: 1. The website is encoded with bare HTML, plus it addresses a copyright notice. Crunchydough (talk) 18:47, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz I also added the mentioned link into the fair use rationale. Crunchydough (talk) 19:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Crunchydough, makes no difference. I can upload my own fanart to my own website. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:39, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2021

You forgot to mention that Donald Duck is American in the lines. 2409:4073:19C:D0B7:359D:15A:FE9B:A35B (talk) 09:03, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:44, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2021

A previous user unexpectedly removed Daniel Ross from the voice actors section on the info box saying he no longer does voices for Disney anymore, just because he no longer does voices for Disney doesn’t mean he should be removed from the info box. Plus, the user also deleted a reference of voice the Donald Duck voice is performed, as shown in this edit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Donald_Duck&diff=1033478113&oldid=1032484517. Is there anyway some can restore both of those edits again? 74.92.41.6 (talk) 21:27, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 14:56, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2022

As you can read here at wikipedia.it Paperinik is a comics character, but he is usually referred to the secret identity of Donald Duck, whose alias in Italian is "Paperino". For this reason in the Aliases section "Paperinik" should be modified to "Paperino". AlbaneseLorenzo (talk) 19:20, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: But the alias is still Paperinik Aaron Liu (talk) 15:11, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2023

Walt Disney didn't create Donald Duck, Fred Spencer did, credit him after Dick Lundy in the creation, because Fred Spencer came in 2nd to Walt, since Disney designed a yellow duck with a army hat on. Change Walt Disney on Character Design to Fred Spencer. Change Walt Disney as creator to Fred Spencer. Walt was only the developer of the army persona during WWII. Sources: https://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/the-forgotten-duck-man/ Hell he even wrote an analysis! https://auction.howardlowery.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4922884 --2600:4041:5CD6:C600:48C2:F41F:95B1:9253 (talk) 02:35, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

The sources you provide do not seem to support this. From your first source: Spencer seems to have animated the little feathered troublemaker for the first time in late 1934–early 1935 for Mickey’s Service Station, the first of the Mickey-Donald-Goofy “trio” pictures. (which was not the first appearance of Donald Duck). This directly contradicts him being the creator of the character, although the rest of the source does support him providing significant development to the character, and it does seem he is already included in the infobox under 'Developed by'. It also seems that the sailor outfit was created before WWII - this can be seen by the theatrical release poster at The Wise Little Hen, which released in 1934, several years before the war, suggesting Disney did contribute directly to the appearance of the character. Tollens (talk) 03:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

What about the Disney character design credit? Disney couldn't draw or animate since 1925, so Disney just said he just heard Clarence Nash reciting "Mary had A Little Lamb" in his Billy goat voice. The hell does that have that to do with the design?

https://www.mouseplanet.com/13205/The_Forgotten_Walt_Disney_Interviews_1959

Plus, Iwerks had to do all the work for Walt, even in the animation field, until 1929.

http://www.crazycollege.org/IwerksFilmFax.htm

I think Fred Spencer designed the modern Donald Duck, since it's in the Cartoon Research article. Change Walt Disney to Fred Spencer. https://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/the-forgotten-duck-man/ 2600:4041:5CD6:C600:B8A3:751C:33AD:154E (talk) 22:05, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Lundy just designed and created the '35 design, while Spencer created the late 1930's design.

http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/?p=1365

And Lundy came before Walt. 2600:4041:5CD6:C600:B8A3:751C:33AD:154E (talk) 22:08, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Copyright of the character

Hi, There is no mention about the copyright of the character? When will it end? (Question already asked above.) Yann (talk) 10:05, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Yann, c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright/Archive/2018/09#Donald Duck in The Spirit of '43 — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:45, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Error in Voice section.

Kingdom Hearts IIII is mentioned instead of Kingdom Hearts III or any other devotion. Can’t edit as am a new member. Ianshen23 (talk) 14:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

Can someone with editing rights please fix the following?

Christian Pfeiler – former president of D.O.N.A.L.D., a German acronym which stands for "German Organization for Non-commercial Followers of Pure Donaldism" – says Donald is appreciated in Germany because [...]

The way this is currently written, it assets that Pfeiler is the former president of a German acronym, which is of course nonsense. I would like to propose the following:

Christian Pfeiler – former president of D.O.N.A.L.D., the German Organization for Non-commercial Followers of Pure Donaldism (German: Deutsche Organisation nichtkommerzieller Anhänger des lauteren Donaldismus) – says Donald is appreciated in Germany because [...]

I personally think that the quotes aren't necessary, by the way, anymore than they are necessary to say that George Washington was the first president of the USA, the "United States of America". But if others disagree that's fine; I primarily would like to see Christian rescued from his position as former president of an acronym.

Thanks, 188.96.169.160 (talk) 09:04, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

That's a good point, thanks! I made the change. Toughpigs (talk) 15:51, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Much appreciated. 188.108.105.213 (talk) 17:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Donald is better than Mickey — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexMoore7 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2024

Request to undo all changes added in the last two revisions ([1] & [2]) by the same user. If you take a look at the diff of both revisions, they both introduce spam text that's unrelated to the article (e.g. "August 12th 2036 the heat death of the universe."). Don't have edit permissions myself which is why I'm submitting this edit request. Gomizzy (talk) 08:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

 Already done reverted in Special:Diff/1250275087 but thanks for noticing them! Skynxnex (talk) 13:41, 9 October 2024 (UTC)