Talk:Donald Davies

Donald Davies was nominated as a Engineering and technology good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (November 6, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Article name

He's not known by his full name; in accordance with policy (Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) I moved this back to the name he's most commonly known by. Noel (talk) 05:24, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality

I have updated the article to read the subject's nationality as 'British' followed by his being from Wales as that is his nationality, that is the standard template for Wikipedia, see Francis_Crick as an example (Crick is English but identified as 'British'.See also Tim Berners-Lee as another exampleTwobells (talk) 13:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I notice his nationality had been changed back to Welsh. I've changed this back to British as per the above. Please leave it as British as that is his official nationality. Nigenet (talk) 09:48, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. Perhaps you could provide a link to the “official nationality” you claim he has. Though perhaps not, as I suspect you just made that up. I have checked every source cited on this article. None note him as British. Of those that do note his nationality, each one notes him as Welsh. In addition, the Science Museum specifically give his nationality as Welsh (under 'Key information'), which is probably as close as we will get to an 'official' source. I have just added information on the blue plaque unveiled in Treorchy. The source is The Independent, which describes him as a 'Welsh computing pioneer'. This page has been stable for well over a year noting his nationality as Welsh. Please read WP:UKNATIONALS. I have reinstated Davies' nationality as Welsh; the stable, and WP:RS cited version. Daicaregos (talk) 16:41, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Teddington

Teddington is not just outside London, being within it. 94.30.84.71 (talk) 12:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't tell that to someone who lives there. Mhkay (talk) 00:02, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Teddington used to be in Middlesex but the boundaries may have since changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 22:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Davies Work, Lawrence Roberts, and ARPANET

According to Davies page on Wikipedia, His work on the Mark 1 and 2 in the seventies influenced Scientist Lawrence Roberts and the creation of ARPANET

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Roberts_%28scientist%29

The wording of Davies page presents a conflict with Lawrence Roberts information, and the wikipedia page for ARPANET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET

The wording of Davies page implies that ARPANET and Lawrence Roberts used Davies work after the mid 1970's

"At NPL Davies helped build a packet-switched network (Mark I). It was replaced with the Mark II in 1973, and remained in operation until 1986, influencing other research in the UK and Europe.[12] Larry Roberts of the Advanced Research Projects Agency in the United States became aware of the idea, and built it into the ARPANET, another network precursor to the modern Internet.[7]"

When on Arpanets page, it was already established in 1969.

"The first permanent ARPANET link was established on 21 November 1969, between the IMP at UCLA and the IMP at the Stanford Research Institute. By 5 December 1969, the entire four-node network was established."

Perhaps rewording and additional research is required for all 3 of these pages, and the information within.

@brb 66.158.178.147 (talk) 11:02, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for flagging. This point has been clarified and supported by inline citations. It was Davies' work prior to the inaugural Symposium on Operating Systems Principles (at the start of October 1967, presented at the conference by his colleague Roger Scantlebury) that influenced Roberts and the ARPANET, although the NPL and ARPA/BBN teams continued to interact and the ARPA/BBN team followed the choice of computer hardware that Davies' team did, the Honeywell 516, to act as the packet switch. Whizz40 (talk) 09:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Unsuccessful. It is a wonderful world (talk) 10:53, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Donald Davies/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Whizz40 (talk · contribs) 09:59, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: It is a wonderful world (talk · contribs) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This will be my first review on a computer scientist, I'm looking forward to it! I am going to start the review on the sources, since a number of issues have caught my eye, and the GA toolbox has led me there.

Whizz40 (talk · contribs) I'll read though the sources section again when the surface issues have been addressed, and then start the prose review. If the prose needs as much work as the references, I may need to fail this. On a cursory glance, I am worried about the huge amount of quotations which doesn't comply with MOS:QUOTATIONS, and the large variance of section lengths. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Whizz40: Any updates on this? Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many apologies. Work life and personal life has gone crazy so I have not been able to work on this. Thank you very much for the feedback; it is greatly appreciated. My apologies that I don't have the capacity to work on this at present. I will use this feedback to improve the article in due course, when I get more personal time, and then re-nominate for GA review. Whizz40 (talk) 23:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Whizz40 No worries, send me a ping when you re-nominate. It is a wonderful world (talk) 10:52, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lead

National Physical Laboratory

Packet switching

Internetworking

Computer network security

Later career

Epilogue

Legacy

Awards and honours

In 2007, he was inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame: This has already been said It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Family

External links

Books

Needs to follow MOS:WORKS.

Sources clock

[1], [13], [27], [54], [55] are broken. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[64]: The URL should be changed to [1] so the http redirect doesn't need to be accessed. A "dead link" template has also been added to this, probably by some bot. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Always check the article on "External links" (linked in the "GA toolbox" on this page to avoid these problems in the future. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[60]: Needs page number It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are several nearly bare URLs which are very susceptible to link rot (several have broken already). It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[3] and [8] reference the same bulletin but have different "journal" fields. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[23] and [76] same source need to be merged. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[66]: Two citations in one, needs to be split. The second one already has its own reference anyways ([75]). It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[25, 26, 40, 43, 57]: URLs? It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[11]: It's weird that all the Harris refs point to a citation also in the reflist template. I would recommend putting the citation they all reference outside of the reflist template as in other GAs and FAs It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[61, 31]: Same reference, merge It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[70, 74]: Same reference, merge It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is loads of publishers and titles that could be wikilinked. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reliability clock

Reliability seems mostly alright on preliminary check, just a few queries:

[1], [72] (same source, need to be merged): What makes the source reliable? It looks like an old group blog, with little if any editorial oversight. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[21]: Can't use Davies' words as a source for his own impact. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[48]: Reliability unclear, would recommend citing the patents themselves with the cite patent template It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[56]: What makes this reliable? It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio clock

35.9% on Earwig. Has several too close paraphrases with this and this

Always check the article on copyvio detector (linked in the "GA toolbox" on this page) to avoid these problems in the future. It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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