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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 02:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should this article quote its Kentish coordinate when there are now 4 sites? Vicarage (talk) 05:22, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of rides and drives

After having checked a number of random fairground attractions within the categories that are listed in this article, such as Amusement parks in England and Amusement parks in New Jersey, I have come to the conclusion that a list of rides and/or drives with descriptions and/or images seem to be common. Therefore, I have reverted the removal of this list on the Diggerland page. I would also remind all contributors to please keep a civil tone. Asav | Talk 15:45, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's been nothing but promotional editing from everyone related to Diggerland so it's understand when one eventually gets a little pissed off with it!, That said you are right the rides are displayed everyone so I've reverted myself but have removed the images. –Davey2010^Talk 15:52, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As the images do not have any valid license information at this time, they cannot be used. If you have any factual corrections or objections, please mark the statements in the question with {{reference needed}}, so that they may be resolved. Thank you. Asav | Talk 16:12, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war

I figured I'd try & get the ball rolling, Right my objections are these:

For the infobox - "| season = February–October" ~~isn't a valid paremter and even if it was~~ we don't need to include this info,
For the article - I did originally object to "Children and adults can ride, drive and operate real diggers, dumpers and other full-size construction machinery." but the article doesn't really state what Diggerland really is,
The ride images are another issue - They're rather promotional and the rides themselves are all unsourced anyway,

I can cite the rides if wanted but imho the images shouldn't be here as they're promo, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 14:53, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Came from the edit warring board. Tsk tsk. I was about to remove the whole promo section on rides, and agree they do look a bit building site, but the section above has something to say on the subject. However, it has been a couple of years, and promo is promo. Lets discuss again and perhaps a new consensus may form. I have no opinion on the ifnobox, I hate them with an overruling passion as they ruin the appearance of the project, and have no useful benefits. hey ho. -Roxy the dog. bark 15:01, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, Hopefully we can all come to an agreement or some sort of compromise ...., FWIW I don't usually mind infoboxes but in this case it does seem pointless considering most of the info is directly on the left, Ah well hopefully an agreement can be reached, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:36, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I had to protect it on whatever version that it was on, otherwise I'd be WP:INVOLVED Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 16:41, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, sorry I was unaware that an employee cannot make changes to their affiliated page, I'm happy to suggest changes and work with yourselves. Thank you for your feedback, it is very much appreciated. I would like to come to a conclusion and resolve this issue. I think it would be best to address each issue individually, let's kick things off with the rides and drives, many other attractions, similar to Diggerland feature a section very similar or even identical to us, in regards to the sourcing for the images and information, what do you recommend? We own each image as we have taken these ourselves and the information is from our Diggerland website - blake.hammond (talk) (cont) 08:55, 21 September 2017 (GMT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blake.Hammond (talk • contribs)

@Blake.Hammond: A couple of key points, that will hopefully explain where we're coming from. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. I realise that may be stating the obvious, but it means we attract an audience of people who want to find out about things that are already well-known. That means an article on Diggerland is more likely to be read by people who already know about it, or have visited it several times, and want to know more. For example, I pass the Strood site all the time on High Speed 1. So, there's no value in adding content that promotes Diggerland, as it's in the wrong place. If people want to visit Diggerland and wonder what's there, they'll go to your website, not Wikipedia.

While the Wikimedia foundation like to trumpet the amount of articles we have, comparatively little attention has been paid towards the quality of them. So simply saying that "another site has got a similar section" may not actually mean much other than the quality of that article is not so good and needs improvement.

Sources should be independent and trustworthy, such as an article in The Times, BBC News or The Guardian, or a general-purpose commercially published book about days out or theme parks. Images are generally best placed on Wikimedia Commons; you can add as many of your own photos as you like there, provided you are prepared to put them in the public domain or license them for free sharing and commercial reuse. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:28, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thank you for clearing this up. Am I able to express my edits here for you to consider? Blake Hammond — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blake.Hammond (talk • contribs) 11:12, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely - a couple of experienced editors like myself and Davey are keeping an eye on this talk page, so we can act on them. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:26, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please could the current logo be replaced with this?

File:DL Logo.png

DL Logo

Hi Blake, I've uploaded that logo here as "File:Diggerland Logo 2017.png" - Commons will only keep logos if they meet Commons:TOO which unfortunately it doesn't over there so will end up being deleted, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 13:03, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just a heads up but I've reverted back - As the COI editors version was up they obviously have no reason to discuss this so having the "other" version back up might force them to come back who knows, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 13:27, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We would like the inclusion of the rides and drives, like most other theme parks, what was the reason for removing this? Thank you, Blake.

Done - Having looked at various articles rides are indeed included so I've reinserted this however I've left the images out due to them being overly promotional (Compare your revision to those of Chessington World of Adventures and Alton Towers, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:52, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this, how do I go about providing suitable images for you to check? Blake.

I noticed the page does not feature any images for the Rides and Drives, how do I go about having them added? Blake.