Talk:Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76
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[edit]Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76 | |
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BWV 76 | |
by J. S. Bach | |
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Instrumental | Tr 2Ob Oa Fg 2Vl Va Vg Bc |
I propose that Bach's unusual instrumentation is visible in the infobox, instead of a general "instruments", for example like this. You can join a related discussion for Bach's works in general here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- See the discussion for a longer explanation, but in brief there is consensus against using those abbreviations and the doubled SATB is confusing to readers. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:58, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- I see no consensus, I only see a bunch of people who don't know much about music arguing with someone who does. Montanabw(talk) 21:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- You don't appear to be able to accurately speak to the knowledge/background of all participants, and even if you could, who's to say the readers know much about music themselves? After all, as Gerda has argued, we should serve those who know nothing. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- I will reply on the template discussion, because it's a general topic, not only for this article, not even only about music, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- I proposed something different there. - Let's keep in mind what you can read above: ... that Bach has a trumpet tell God's glory in cantata Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76, first performed in the Thomaskirche (pictured), but oboe d'amore and viola da gamba express "brotherly devotion", and it means sisters also ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- OK, I'm done here then, off to the other page. Montanabw(talk) 16:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- We make progress there, but it will take time. For so long let's take the surprising news that a Baroque composer used Baroque instruments. In devotion, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- OK, I'm done here then, off to the other page. Montanabw(talk) 16:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- You don't appear to be able to accurately speak to the knowledge/background of all participants, and even if you could, who's to say the readers know much about music themselves? After all, as Gerda has argued, we should serve those who know nothing. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- I see no consensus, I only see a bunch of people who don't know much about music arguing with someone who does. Montanabw(talk) 21:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76 | |
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BWV 76 | |
by J. S. Bach | |
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After discussing various options, a recommendation by Voceditenore was to link the instruments to the "best current" article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:31, 1 May 2013 (UTC)