Talk:Despotate of Arta

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Religion: Islam?

I believe the Albanians were still largely Catholic and Orthodox Christians in the 1300s, not Muslims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.157.173 (talk) 16:55, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Symbols

Was there ever a flag? File:Flag of the Despotate of Arta.jpg claims to have been made according to Gjin Varfi (2000). Heraldika shqiptare. Shtëpia Botuese Dituria. ISBN 978-99927-31-85-7.--Zoupan 08:53, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It appears this is just a product of wp:OR. Same happens with several other supposed medieval Albanian symbols (the eagle of Arbanon etc.Talk:Principality_of_Arbanon#Coat_of_Arms).Alexikoua (talk) 10:50, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Purposedly false claim

An incredibly blatant misrapresention of facts is written in the incipt of this article, aimed to portray the Albanians as "newcomers" in Epirus.

Given these few points:

-that Epirus is a "geographic" term and not "ethnic", -that the Northern part of Epirus have always been inhabited by Barbarians/Illyrians according to historians of ancient Greece, -that Albanians are proved to be newcomers in Thesprotia, not in "Epirus", that is a much wider term and comprehensive of Illyrian tribes that always inhabitated Northern Epirus,

I propose that the purposedly mistake passed in the incipit to be corrected changing the place of arrival of Albanians from "Epirus" to "region of Thesprotia". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.15.233.94 (talk) 14:48, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Illyrians ≠ Albanians. Please don't continue to violate WP:AGF in future.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:02, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh really? Thanks God Wikipedia's historians are educating me. I'm afraid these guys think otherwise though:

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We are still debating the Illyrian-Albanian connection for real? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.15.233.94 (talk) 12:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]