Talk:Derek Abbott

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Hang On

Please note this article is in progress. Please hang on for a while, as it is being expanded. Rome was not built in a day. SuperGirl 10:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

• Well, it's been six years and he's still not notable. Are we done waiting? Qworty (talk) 19:11, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
  • That account SuperGirl (talk · contribs) won't respond as it has been blocked as a Checkuser  Confirmed sock of Bunzil (talk · contribs), along with sock account SureFire (talk · contribs). Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 03:14, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

    Now it’s almost been 17 years 175.35.119.171 (talk) 02:31, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Useless sections

Do we really need his Erdos number and scientific genealogy? This page should be about what makes him notable, not trivia about him. Also I propose deleting the "notable students" - they don't look very notable to me. Rocksong 02:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Year of birth is illogical

year of birth is illogical comparing to the other years mentioned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.66.153.167 (talk) 10:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it was in 2009, but in November 2012 the dates look consistent. Pdfpdf (talk) 00:55, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Some source material for the article

Abbott is mentioned in detail in Taman Shud Case, but there's enough material for a separate biography article on him as well. The following appear to be about the topic, but Derek Abbott is a common name and some of the sources below may include other Derek Abbotts:

• Robots may soon be able to see as well as bees, Reuters, November 10, 1993 has good information from "Adelaide-based research engineer Derek Abbott."
• Sinocast May 25, 1998 "University of Adelaide electrical and electronic engineering department lecturer Derek Abbott said ...";
• The Age January 5, 2000,
• New York Times January 25, 2000,
• Australasian Science March 1, 2001,
• New Scientist January 5, 2002,
• Dallas Morning News January 27, 2003,
• Aljazeera December 14, 2004,
• ABC Premium News December 14, 2004,
• Advertiser (Australia) July 19, 2005,
• Herald Sun July 3, 2007,
• Toronto Star January 20, 2008,
• Hindustan Times January 29, 2008,
• United News of India February 5, 2008,
• Daily Mail February 5, 2008,
• Sydney Morning Herald February 9, 2008,
• The Age June 19, 2008,
• Wales on Sunday September 28, 2008,
• Pharma Business Week July 27, 2009,
• Asian News International August 5, 2009,
• The Age April 12, 2010,
• Hindustan Times December 1, 2010,
• Birmingham Mail March 30, 2011
• "Wreath for remembrance". Canberra Times. August 30, 2011. p. A12. A Scientist, Derek Abbott, has published a satirical dictionary to be updated via crowd sourcing. The Adelaide-based Abbott's tome features wry definitions for everyday concepts. He considers his creation an updated version of Ambrose Bierce's book The Devil's Dictionary and published it to mark the 100th anniversary of Bierce's work. Like The Devil's Dictionary, Abbott's book is an attempt at humorous and pointed descriptions of everyday terms and concepts. Unlike it, however, the dictionary draws from a variety of sources and will be updated regularly based on reader contributions. Definitions include "Creativity: n. "knowing how to hide your sources" (attributed to Albert Einstein), and Lloyd Irving's definition of morals: "excuses for not behaving badly" {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); |section= ignored (help);
• Sunday Mail October 16, 2011,
• Sunday Mail November 20, 2011,
• States News Service March 5, 2012.

-- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:21, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Wickedictionary AFD closed as "Delete"

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wickedictionary closed as Delete, just an FYI notice here as it's relevant to this article page, — Cirt (talk) 23:49, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia AFD closed as "no consensus" (5 November 2012)

FYI: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek Abbott. (More information at the top of this talk page.) Pdfpdf (talk) 00:53, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Notability: over 5000 citations of Derek Abbott's papers with 35 h-index!

• Common, folks, those who claim Abbott is not highly notable cannot be serious. Abbott has over 5000 citations,and his h-index is 35, see here: http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=vqD_0uQAAAAJ&hl=en

The wiki rules mention the lower limit of 10 citations for notability. Many Nobel Prize winners had less than 5000 citations and much less h-index when they died. Abbott is highly notable and this fact is highly visible; with 5000 citations and 35 h-index he could be full professors at any university an he is among the current leaders of scientific and technological research. Rubmum (talk) 03:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

So please establish notability in the main article (reliable secondary sources) instead of complaining here. Chemical Engineer (talk) 13:12, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I am not aware of any reliable sources that describe him as "among the current leaders of scientific and technological research". He certainly seems to pass the threshold of notability, but my impression is that the large number of citations may be due in part to a penchant for quirky or "sexy" topics that generate a lot of buzz, rather than a leadership role. I am not aware of any reliable sources that comment on this aspect of his work either. It would be helpful to find an independent, reliable source that assesses the overall nature and impact of his work.~ Ningauble (talk) 13:16, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Just what is it that he is notable for?

Can anyone concisely summarise in a couple of sentences just what it is he is notable for? Pdfpdf (talk) 00:36, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

His google scholar publication list indicates high notability for many things; somebody could list them; the papers are there with citation numbers that can also be mentioned. However, even his IEEE Fellow status alone is enough to claim notability on wikipedia; see the relevant wikipedia page [1] :

Criteria: Academics/professors meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable...

3. The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a Fellow of a major scholarly society for which that is a highly selective honor (e.g., the IEEE). Rubmum (talk) 01:05, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi i am Derek Abbott’s son i can confirm everything is correct :)

I am his son btw 175.35.124.141 (talk) 01:29, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

I know the names of the 3 children because i am one of them

The names are Gisele george and violet 175.35.119.171 (talk) 02:25, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi

His parents which both died were actually Indian 175.35.119.171 (talk) 22:52, 17 November 2023 (UTC)