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A fact from Delulu appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 February 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that "delulu is the solulu" is a catchphrase?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/February. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Delulu.

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On 20 October 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Delusionship. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Modern slang of saying someone is delusional

This word is used by the youth as to say someone is delusional 41.114.170.46 (talk) 15:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 05:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that "delulu is the solulu" is a catchphrase? Source: https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/crazy-career-moves-delulu-is-the-solulu-7020b615
- ALT1: ... that delulu, a word denoting self-confidence, originated as a derogatory reference in shipping culture? Source: https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:785cb0d4-965a-4a30-88ba-2c50362cc7ad
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hackaball
- Comment: Open to other suggestions for hooks :)

Created by Sohom Datta (talk). Self-nominated at 18:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Delulu; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Article created 21 January. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable- I assume that an Oxford PhD thesis is acceptable? Hooks are interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks good. Thriley (talk) 18:49, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: I would assume the same. The PhD thesis appears to have been supervised by a fairly well respected professor who has multiple books on related topics and appears to be well respected. Also, it appears that a portion of this thesis were presented at the 24th Sociolinguistics Symposium. University of Ghent in 2022. Sohom (talk) 19:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot believe that the hook wasn’t "… that delulu is the solulu?" Zanahary (talk) 18:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Verbose

Once again I find alignment in a boomer-zoomer axis of virtue, but this article is repetitive, and fluffy, could use a beefy overhaul/redact. Lycurgus (talk) 06:42, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Origin

There is a British English word, 'doolally', that means someone has lost their mind. It's commonly used in British English speech. I always assumed 'delulu' was somehow derived (if only in part) from that, similar to the way other parts of British argot have made their way across the Pond in recent years - like 'bonkers'. Has a proper study been made of the etymology of the neologism 'delulu'? Are the quoted sources possibly just repeating the opinions of people who aren't scholars of linguistics? Incidentally, 'doolally' has an interesting etymology itself, from WW2 - see Deolali transit camp. Stronach (talk) 09:19, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 20 October 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 08:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delulu → Delusionship – WP:COMMONNAME WP:NPV WP:SLANG WP:NOTSLANG More appropriate in academic sources^[1]^[2]^[3] Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 07:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC) Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 07:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Lemire, Sarah (2024-03-11). "In a One-Sided Relationship? The Signs to Look Out For". www.today.com. Retrieved 2024-10-20.
^ Oliver, David. "What is a 'delusionship'? That made-up relationship in your head, explained". USA TODAY. Retrieved 2024-10-20.
^ "Are you in a 'delusionship'? Here's how to tell". Cosmopolitan. 2023-07-20. Retrieved 2024-10-20.

Oppose. The topic of this article is the word "delulu". See WP:WORDISSUBJECT. "Delusionship" is a different word with different meaning. Adumbrativus (talk) 13:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Adumbrativus; and not clear how USA Today, etc. are academic sources; nor how those Wikipedia:UPPERCASE letters apply... Hameltion (talk | contribs) 14:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The media source does cite academic expert opinions. Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 15:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Explain how both of them have different meanings. Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 15:15, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a expert on gen z slang but my understanding is that delusionship is a newer word that refers to the manifesting/imagining a relationship specifically, delulu is a older word that has its roots in Korean kpop fan-culture and is basically used to mean manifesting anything in general. Sohom (talk) 15:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Lead state the otherwise: "the term delulu is used to refer to individuals who were in a parasocial relationship with celebrities and had hopes of meeting them someday." Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 16:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are cherry picking lede out of context, the full context is "the term has its origins in K-pop communities where the term delulu is used to refer to individuals who were in a parasocial relationship with celebrities and had hopes of meeting them someday.", the origins of the term don't reflect it current usage in mainstream media websites. Sohom (talk) 16:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per COMMONNAME.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Adumbrativus and others. This article is specifically about the word delulu. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 07:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[1] Lemire, Sarah (2024-03-11). "In a One-Sided Relationship? The Signs to Look Out For". www.today.com. Retrieved 2024-10-20.

[2] Oliver, David. "What is a 'delusionship'? That made-up relationship in your head, explained". USA TODAY. Retrieved 2024-10-20.

[3] "Are you in a 'delusionship'? Here's how to tell". Cosmopolitan. 2023-07-20. Retrieved 2024-10-20.

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