Talk:Delta State
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[edit]I am from Delta State Nigeria and Igbo is not the predominant language. There are the Urhobos, Isokos, Ishekris, Ijaws and many other tribes. In fact, Delta state might be one of the most diverse states in Nigeria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.59.141.59 (talk) Tanno ben— Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.36.234.62 (talk)
…Please let the hystory of the Ukwuani Community be on the net.[1]— Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.166.237.254 (talk)
Oil in Delta State
[edit]So the lede notes that Delta State is primarily an oil producing region, yet makes no mention of it under "natural resources," ignores the international oil firms operating there and the numerous deadly conflicts that have arisen over the protests against oil drilling. This is akin to describing Hawaii while failing to mention that it is an island in the Pacific. Oil is everything in Delta State. This is quite the poor article, imo. 69.237.157.127 (talk) 02:28, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Copy/plagiarism
[edit]This article seems to be largely plagiarized from http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/information/details/Delta .
Reported at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2013 July 2. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:25, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for noting the issue. :) On investigation it appears far more likely that they plagiarized from us. See comment field in the template now at the top of the article for more information. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:28, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
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Okpe People
[edit]Okpe People often regarded as the Urhobo people, whose language is widely claimed to be one of many dialects of Urhobo, occupy Sapele and Okpe Local Government Areas of Delta State. The Okpe and Urhobo both migrated from the Benin Kingdom. The majority of Okpe people see themselves as ethnic groups that are different from those of Urhobo. They see themselves as different from the Urhobos. However, the Orodje of Okpe who is the king of the Okpe people has stated that the Okpe people are Urhobo people until any other official statement says otherwise. Omajemite (talk) 20:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
October 2024 dispute
[edit]Lunarwriter (talk · contribs) and ObiWali (talk · contribs), please use this section of the talk page to discuss this, both of you have already gone over the WP:3RR rule several times over. — Watercheetah99 (talk) 17:34, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Whomever is behind that ObiWali account along with other like accounts have been coordinating a hate campaign against the Igbos on several Wikipedia pages, distorting history and records. What they are writing is not only untrue, but deeply offensive and inciting against the Igbo. Lunarwriter (talk) 18:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Could you provide specific examples of these distortions and your counter to them? — Watercheetah99 (talk) 19:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- The ethnic groups in Delta state:
- https://www.nigerdeltabudget.org/overview-of-delta/
- Where is Ibo/Igbo? But here they have edited Igbo in everything, including Olukumi (Google it). ObiWali (talk) 23:51, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Lunarwriter please explain your side and avoid further edit warring — Watercheetah99 (talk) 23:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- See the Ethnic groups in the state:
- https://fondcup.ng/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Delta-State-map.jpg ObiWali (talk) 23:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've noted your sources @ObiWali and I'm not an admin, I'm just trying to facilitate the discussion to avoid further edit warring. @Lunarwriter please explain your side. — Watercheetah99 (talk) 03:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Lunarwriter please explain your side and avoid further edit warring — Watercheetah99 (talk) 23:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Obi Wali is an Igbo leader of the Ikwerre clan that was butchered for fighting for his people. This Obi Wali account is a taunt against the Igbo clans. There are several Igbo clans in Delta State - the Ukwuani, Enuani, Ila , Ndokwa, Oshimili, Aniocha, Anioma. These are well known Igbo groups that this Obi Wali character is attempting to distort online. The account is going further to accuse Igbos of killing Hausa and other ethnic groups in Delta State. This is a dangerous attack against the Igbo. First the account holder that is clearly not Igbo, adopted the identity of a man that was butchered for fighting for the rights of Ikwerre Igbo. Secondly he is changing the identity of Igbos. Thirdly, he is lying that the Igbos killed the Hausa and several groups in Delta. These are all a designed hate campaign against the Igbo. Obi Wali and several like accounts are launching a hate campaign against Igbos online Lunarwriter (talk) 03:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Firstly, I am aware of the actual person Obi Wali — no one is suggesting that this is that person. Secondly, everyone vaguely aware of the ethnic/subethnic dynamics of groups related to the Igbo people know that there is significant contention over whether these groups are Igbo subgroups or distinct ethnic groups — this is the matter of contention in this discussion, bring evidence to support your claim (I know many Ika identify as Igbo but you just said "Ikwerre Igbo" when many Ikwerre do not identify as Igbo which brings your neutrality into question). Thirdly, it is not a "dangerous attack against the Igbo" to note that Biafran forces targeted non-Igbo communities during the Midwest Invasion of 1967 — this is a documented historical fact, stated in works like the book The Nigerian Civil War by John De St. Jorre and this paper on the situation in Esanland among others (this again brings your ability to be neutral into question as you do not delete the sentences on the similarly documented Asaba massacre against ethnic Igbo). Bring sources for the point of contention — if the groups are Igbo subgroups or distinct ethnic groups — and avoid violating the numerous rules that you already have run afoul of (WP:NOTHERE, WP:NPA, WP:EDITWAR, and WP:POV). — Watercheetah99 (talk) 06:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- The person and their likes does not care about evidence. They are only interested in shoving their ethnic identity down the throat of other ethnic groups. To them the English would be Germans, because the English language is classified as a West Germanic language. ObiWali (talk) 08:49, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Firstly, I am aware of the actual person Obi Wali — no one is suggesting that this is that person. Secondly, everyone vaguely aware of the ethnic/subethnic dynamics of groups related to the Igbo people know that there is significant contention over whether these groups are Igbo subgroups or distinct ethnic groups — this is the matter of contention in this discussion, bring evidence to support your claim (I know many Ika identify as Igbo but you just said "Ikwerre Igbo" when many Ikwerre do not identify as Igbo which brings your neutrality into question). Thirdly, it is not a "dangerous attack against the Igbo" to note that Biafran forces targeted non-Igbo communities during the Midwest Invasion of 1967 — this is a documented historical fact, stated in works like the book The Nigerian Civil War by John De St. Jorre and this paper on the situation in Esanland among others (this again brings your ability to be neutral into question as you do not delete the sentences on the similarly documented Asaba massacre against ethnic Igbo). Bring sources for the point of contention — if the groups are Igbo subgroups or distinct ethnic groups — and avoid violating the numerous rules that you already have run afoul of (WP:NOTHERE, WP:NPA, WP:EDITWAR, and WP:POV). — Watercheetah99 (talk) 06:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Could you provide specific examples of these distortions and your counter to them? — Watercheetah99 (talk) 19:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)