Talk:Delta Air Lines Flight 1086

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00:01, 10 March 2015 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Delta Airlines Flight 1086 (A7: Article about an organized event (tour, function, meeting, party, etc.), which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

It was then restored.

On March 10, 2015 it is subject to an AFD. The result was _______________. Wowee Zowee public (talk) 15:46, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

• Keep --LL221W (talk) 12:04, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Name

Delta Airlines officially spell the name Delta Air Lines. I suggest we should move the article from Delta Airlines Flight 1086 to Delta Air Lines Flight 1086 --SO2 (talk) 11:44, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes. I can't believe this article lasted so long without being fixed, although the AfD probably dissuaded anyone from moving the page. Since Delta Air Lines Flight 1086 is a redirect, I couldn't perform the move myself. I have requested the move at WP:Requested moves. AHeneen (talk) 06:14, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Location

The GPS coordinates are also wrong - they appear somewhere in Greenland. Yny501 (talk) 04:35, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! The coordinates were reversed...75 west was north and 40 north was west. Big difference! AHeneen (talk) 05:27, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Country name

I'm pretty sure that most people actually know where Atlanta is, since most people within the US would know and most people outside the US aren't as bad as their US counterparts at geography. But if it is wished by a majority of editors that we put the country in, so be it. Personally, I don't think it's necessary, but I'll accept it (though I did change the wording of United States of America to United States, since a) the page on Wikipedia is simply 'United States' and b) it isn't necessary to remind everyone all the time that the US is located within the Americas - everyone knows where and what the terms 'United States' or 'the United States' refer to. Yny501 (talk) 01:01, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Also, the name of the site location should be changed as well according to the above logic. Yny501 (talk) 01:03, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Yny501 Your point about not needing to include "United States" is ok, but that could have been accomplished by you in a VERY SHORT edit and edit summary, without coming to the Talk Page and being snarky about what people in the US do or do not know about geography. Just my 2 cents. Juneau Mike (talk) 05:10, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

It's an issue of style/consistency among aviation accident articles to use the format airport (when appropriate) plus "city, country" or "city, sub-national district (state/province/territory/etc.), country". The infobox in this article is Template:Infobox aircraft occurrence; its documentation says (emphasis added):

• site: accident or incident's location (e.g. placename, nearest city/town, country).
• plane1_origin / origin: Origin of (first) aircraft's flight (airport/airfield, city/town, country).
• plane1_destination / destination: (First) aircraft's destination (airport/airfield, city/town, country).

It's not about whether or not people know where the cities are located, it's about consistency. I do think, though, that "of America" is not needed. AHeneen (talk) 06:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Flight number 1086 retired?

I see that the article says that as a result of this incident, the flight number 1086 was retired. What evidence is there of that fact? I had a reservation on flight 1086 (can't find the record now, but I remember thinking "oh, look at that" that I recall to be well after the accident. Here is some proof -- the flight last operated in October 2015, well after the accident: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL1086 (this is user "ryanov" BTW -- I need to get my login info straightened out and I'll fix this post when I do). In fact, I'm sure enough of this that I'm going to change that part. 130.219.8.252 (talk) 18:07, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Nationalities

There's no citation for nationalities. Also, how would the airline know this information; they could try and track the people who checked in with foreign passports, but anybody foreign national who has a US driver's license would not be counted. It seems extremely unlikely that only 3% of the flight was non-US nationals; locally about 10% of the population aren't US citizens. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.30.223.16 (talk) 04:00, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Pilot error

@Samf4u:@MilborneOne:I’ve read the final report and pilot error should be noted. It says the captains inability to maintain control of the aircraft due to the application of excessive reverse thrust. It’s pilot error?

“probable cause of this accident was the captain’s inability to maintain directional control of the airplane due to his application of excessive reverse thrust, which degraded the effectiveness of the rudder in controlling the airplane’s heading.”

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 18:35, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Having read the report I would suggest that summary should probably be "Runway Excursion following loss of directional control" is all that is needed. Pilot error is a bit simplistic as the report shows a number of related factors some not under the control of the crew and "pilot error" gives the wrong impression of what happened in a complex situation. MilborneOne (talk) 18:59, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Will do thanks M! OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 19:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I understand what you mean. I’m not good at making out of the normal summaries that’s all. But thanks. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 19:04, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Pointless text

Among the passengers on the flight was former football player Larry Donnell.

This is important...why? His presence on the aircraft played no role in this accident. Why single out a "former football player" when it is likely other equally-important people were aboard? Irrelevant material such as this is why there are those who dismiss Wikipedia as the work of hacks.

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