Talk:Decisions (song)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was procedural close. The article has been converted into a redirect. There's consensus for move, however, so if restored to an article, Decisions EP is the best destination until we decide otherwise. --BDD (talk) 22:42, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Decisions (song) → Decisions EP – In first place I shouldn't be the person who requests this as this is the original name. According to User:...lol it is a song under no evidence, but Borgore said: "I’m releasing an EP more for my close circle, my hardcore fans, which will be super dubstep-ish, full on". and it is an EP per this. Similarly to Hurt: The EP, this is an EP single not a simple single. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:36, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

• Support – I had gone ahead and done the move and deleted this RM since it seemed clear that the article is about the EP, not the song that has several versions on the EP. But then I noticed the prior move indicating that at least one editor believes the article is about the song. So I restored this RM. Dicklyon (talk) 22:35, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
• Support -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 09:51, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose It is my understanding that an EP has a distinct collection of songs on it, such as Hurt: The EP does. This just contains different mixes of the same song, much like 12-inch singles and a lot of CD singles would. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 22:18, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

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Protected edit request on 19 January 2014

I have an article for "Decisions" drafted in my sandbox. I ask that it be reviewed/placed in the main article space, as there is certainly enough information available regarding the song to turn it into a Good Article with some more work. WikiRedactor (talk) 00:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC) WikiRedactor (talk) 00:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Done by Kww. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:36, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Decisions (song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 18:59, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Nominator: WikiRedactor (talk)

Hi! My review for this article will be here shortly. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 18:59, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

1: Well-written

• a. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
• b. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

WP:LEAD:

Check for WP:LEAD: Check for Correct Structure of Lead Section:  Done Check for Citations (WP:LEADCITE):  Done Check for Introductory text:  Done Check for Provide an accessible overview (MOS:INTRO):  Done Major Point 1: Background and composition "It was independently released through online music stores on July 10, 2012 with its accompanying remixes extended play (EP); it was released as a stand-alone track on February 8, 2013. Cyrus' inclusion on the song was initially not publicized, with the intention for of it making its own impact separate from her reputation, although Cyrus later confirmed the collaboration. "Decisions" is an electronic dance music (EDM) and dubstep track that lyrically discusses the general desire for wealth and success, frequently mentioned as "bitches love cake" during the track." (summarised well in the lead) Major Point 2: Critical reception "Upon its release, the track received generally favorable reviews from music critics, who appreciated Cyrus' inclusion and its diversity from her earlier works, but were ambivalent towards its overall production." (summarised well in the lead) Major Point 3: Music video "An accompanying music video for the song was filmed in Los Angeles, California and was released on November 1, 2012." (summarised well in the lead) Major Point 4: Live performance "" (not in the lead, do you think it should be mentioned? I’m not sure.) Major Point 5: Parody "The original version failed to chart on any national record charts, although the parody "Hunger Games" by TheBajanCanadian peaked at number 38 on the U.S. Billboard Dance/Electronic Songs chart." (summarised well in the lead) Check for Relative emphasis:  Done Major Point 1: Background and composition "It was independently released through online music stores on July 10, 2012 with its accompanying remixes extended play (EP); it was released as a stand-alone track on February 8, 2013. Cyrus' inclusion on the song was initially not publicized, with the intention for of it making its own impact separate from her reputation, although Cyrus later confirmed the collaboration. "Decisions" is an electronic dance music (EDM) and dubstep track that lyrically discusses the general desire for wealth and success, frequently mentioned as "bitches love cake" during the track." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body) Major Point 2: Critical reception "Upon its release, the track received generally favorable reviews from music critics, who appreciated Cyrus' inclusion and its diversity from her earlier works, but were ambivalent towards its overall production." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body) Major Point 3: Music video "An accompanying music video for the song was filmed in Los Angeles, California and was released on November 1, 2012." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body) Major Point 4: Live performance "" (not in the lead, do you think it should be mentioned? I’m not sure.) Major Point 5: Parody "The original version failed to chart on any national record charts, although the parody "Hunger Games" by TheBajanCanadian peaked at number 38 on the U.S. Billboard Dance/Electronic Songs chart." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body) Check for Opening paragraph (MOS:BEGIN):  Done Check for First sentence (WP:LEADSENTENCE):  Done "Decisions" is a song by Israeli record producer Borgore featuring American recording artist Miley Cyrus. Check for Format of the first sentence (MOS:BOLDTITLE):  Done Check for Proper names and titles:  Done Check for Abbreviations and synonyms (MOS:BOLDSYN): None Check for Foreign language (MOS:FORLANG): None Check for Pronunciation: None Check for Contextual links (MOS:CONTEXTLINK):  Done Check for Biographies: NA Check for Organisms: NA Check for Biographies of living persons: NA Check for Alternative names (MOS:LEADALT):  Done Check for Non-English titles: Check for Usage in first sentence: Check for Separate section usage: Check for Length (WP:LEADLENGTH):  Done Check for Clutter (WP:LEADCLUTTER): None

WP:LAYOUT:

Done Check for WP:LAYOUT:  Done Check for Body sections: WP:BODY, MOS:BODY.  Done Check for Headings and sections:  Done Check for Section templates and summary style:  Done Check for Paragraphs (MOS:PARAGRAPHS):  Done Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading (WP:BETTER) Can sections "Live performance" and "Parody" be merged? The paragraphs are too short. Check for Standard appendices and footers (MOS:APPENDIX):  Done Check for Order of sections (WP:ORDER):  Done Check for Works or publications:  Done Check for See also section (MOS:SEEALSO):  Done Check for Notes and references (WP:FNNR):  Done Check for Further reading (WP:FURTHER):  Done Check for External links (WP:LAYOUTEL):  Done Check for Links to sister projects:  Done Check for Navigation templates:  Done Check for Formatting:  Done Check for Images (WP:LAYIM):  Done Check for Links:  Done Check for Horizontal rule (WP:LINE):  Done

WP:WTW:

Done Check for WP:WTW:  Done Check for Words that may introduce bias:  Done Check for Puffery (WP:PEA):  Done Check for Contentious labels (WP:LABEL):  Done Check for Unsupported attributions (WP:WEASEL):  Done Check for Expressions of doubt (WP:ALLEGED):  Done Check for Editorializing (MOS:OPED):  Done Check for Synonyms for said (WP:SAY):  Done Check for Expressions that lack precision:  Done Check for Euphemisms (WP:EUPHEMISM):  Done Check for Clichés and idioms (WP:IDIOM):  Done Check for Relative time references (WP:REALTIME):  Done Check for Neologisms (WP:PEA): None Check for Offensive material (WP:F***):  Done Check for WP:MOSFICT:  Done Check for Real-world perspective (WP:Real world):  Done Check for Primary and secondary information (WP:PASI):  Done Check for Contextual presentation (MOS:PLOT):  Done

WP:EMBED:
Done Prose is preferred over list (WP:PROSE): Check for Tables (MOS:TABLES):

2: Verifiable with no original research

• a. Has an appropriate reference section: Yes
• b. Citation to reliable sources where necessary: excellent (Thorough check on Google. Cross-checked with the other FA – Fijación Oral, Vol. 1)

WP:RS:

Done Check for WP:RS:  Done Check for the material (WP:RSVETTING): (not contentious)  Done Is it contentious?: No Does the ref indeed support the material?: Check for the author (WP:RSVETTING):  Done Who is the author?: Does the author have a Wikipedia article?: What are the author's academic credentials and professional experience?: What else has the author published?: Is the author, or this work, cited in other reliable sources? In academic works?: Check for the publication (WP:RSVETTING):  Done Check for Self-published sources (WP:SPS):

WP:MINREF:
Done Check for inline citations WP:MINREF:  Done Check for Direct quotations:  Done Check for Likely to be challenged:  Done Check for Contentious material about living persons (WP:BLP): NA

• c. No original research:  Done

WP:NOR:
Done Check for primary sources (WP:PRIMARY):  Done Check for synthesis (WP:SYN):  Done Check for original images (WP:OI):  Done

3: Broad in its coverage

a. Major aspects:

Done Thorough check on Google in parallel with criteria 2. Cross-checked with the other FA – Fijación Oral, Vol. 1 Check for Article scope as defined by reliable sources: Check for The extent of the subject matter in these RS: Check for Out of scope: Check for The range of material that belongs in the article: Check for All material that is notable is covered: Check for All material that is referenced is covered: Check for All material that a reader would be likely to agree matches the specified scope is covered: Check for The most general scope that summarises essentially all knowledge: Check for Stay on topic and no wandering off-topic (WP:OFFTOPIC):

b. Focused:
Done Check for Readability issues (WP:LENGTH): Check for Article size (WP:TOO LONG!):

4: Neutral

WP:NPOV:

Done 4. Fair representation without bias:  Done Check for POV (WP:YESPOV):  Done Check for naming (WP:POVNAMING):  Done Check for structure (WP:STRUCTURE):  Done Check for Due and undue weight (WP:DUE):  Done Check for Balancing aspects (WP:BALASPS):  Done Check for Giving "equal validity" (WP:VALID):  Done Check for Balance (WP:YESPOV):  Done Check for Impartial tone (WP:IMPARTIAL):  Done Check for Describing aesthetic opinions (WP:SUBJECTIVE):  Done Check for Words to watch (WP:YESPOV):  Done Check for Attributing and specifying biased statements (WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV):  Done Check for Fringe theories and pseudoscience (WP:PSCI): None Check for Religion (WP:RNPOV): None

5: Stable: No edit wars, etc: Yes

6: Images  Done (NFC with a valid FUR) & (Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license)

Images:

Done 6: Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:  Done Check for copyright tags (WP:TAGS):  Done Check for copyright status:  Done Check for non-free content (WP:NFC):  Done Check for valid fair use rationales (WP:FUR):  Done 6: Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:  Done Check for image relevance (WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE):  Done Check for Images for the lead (WP:LEADIMAGE):  Done Check for suitable captions (WP:CAPTION):  Done

I'm glad to see your work here. I do have some insights based on the above checklist that I think will improve the article:

• I think the lead can be improved in order to provide an accessible overview and to give relative emphasis.
• I think the layout needs to be fixed.

Besides that, I think the article looks excellent. WikiRedactor, please feel free to strike out any recommendation from this review which you think will not help in improving the article which is our main aim here. All the best, --Seabuckthorn ♥ 23:13, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your review! I was a little hesitant to merge the live performance and parody information into a "Live performance and parody" section because they are so unrelated, although I moved both sections' information into a single paragraph under "Background and composition". If you're not really feeling this arrangement, I'll go ahead and create a separate section. I also added a mention of the live performance in the introduction. If there are any other adjustments you'd like made to the article, I'll be more than happy to make them! WikiRedactor (talk) 23:22, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! The article looks perfect now. And to be honest, I wanted exactly this modification but was a bit hesitant to suggest in my review because it involved removal of two sections, so thanks a lot! Thanks, WikiRedactor, very much for your diligence, care and precision in writing such great articles. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 22:57, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Promoting the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 22:57, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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