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On 24 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Aner Shapira to Death of Aner Shapira. The result of the discussion was moved.

Please changed "granade" typo in article to "grenade"

this part please --> " to the eight granades thrown into the shelter"

Objection to deletion

This is an unusual, prominent and famous event. And in addition, the event was recorded in a photograph. A man who protected several people with his bare hands and was killed in the process. He is considered a "hero" in Israel. And he was talked about a lot in the Israeli media.[1][2][3][4][5][6] [7][8][9] Eladkarmel (talk) 15:08, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "Shapira reportedly attempted to inspire hope for th hose in the shelter, by telling them that the Isreal military would arrive soon. Shapira stood closer to the exit, telling those who were next to him that of the shelter was attacked by militants or grenades, he would throw the grenades back." to "Shapira reportedly attempted to inspire hope for those in the shelter by telling them that the Israeli military would arrive soon. Shapira stood near the exit, telling those next to him that if the shelter was attacked by militants or grenades, he would throw the grenades back." Corrects grammar & spelling. Littlestlord (talk) 07:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done SSSB (talk) 11:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 March 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky (talk) 09:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aner Shapira → Death of Aner Shapira – This is a classic one-event biography. I think that the event is notable, but not the person. I suggest renaming the page to reflect this. Other similar(ish) pages in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war_hostage_were similarly renamed. Mason (talk) 01:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - per nom and WP:1E. Notability overall is questionable, but alas that would be a discussion for AfD. estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative “Killing of” would be more appropriate per the use by RS. FortunateSons (talk) 12:36, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm equally fine with "Killing" versus "Death". Mason (talk) 21:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:1E. Marokwitz (talk) 06:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not sure what media can be added to a page, but this Times of Israel article includes a photo taken by someone from inside the shelter.

The video is also included in that article. It originated from the "South First Responders" Telegram page, who gave permission for it to be reproduced, if that is something that can be then uploaded.

It also may be worth adding that the dashcam video came from the car of a man named Osama Abu Assa, who can be seen outside the shelter at the start of the video. His murder was also very prominent in Israel, and while not prominent for its own Wikipedia page, that makes me think it may be worth mentioning him by name.

Abu Assa's dashcam footage is talked about in this NBC article, this YNET article mentions how Abu Assa tried to save the kids in the shelter, begging terrorists to leave them alone and how, according to survivors, Abu Assa told the individuals in the shelter not to speak Hebrew in his attempt to defend them.

This times of Israel write upalso cites a New York Times article, but I'm unable to find it -- perhaps someone more skilled than me can do so.

Since the article seems up for deletion due to its notability, to emphasize that Aner's murder was notable in Israeli society, in addition to connecting to Osama Abu Assa, may be worth mentioning that Aner's music was released after his death and has been well received in Israel: This Times of Israel article covers the release and has another photo from inside the shelter. Holocaust Researcher 65 (talk) 06:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Hero in inverted commas?

have you no shame? 85.95.61.54 (talk) 18:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yeah they don't have any shame. They get enjoyment out of this stuff because they really really love Jews so much ;) 2A0D:6FC0:777:C00:35D3:2301:71E3:8DC4 (talk) 20:00, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Add some information about commemoration of Aner Shapira.

Commemoration

Alongside the many commemorative texts, songs, and articles published on Aner, his story became famous across the sea as well. Indeed, in the little town of Beziers, in the South of France, between Montpellier and Perpignan, a special memorial was built in memory of Aner Shapira. The mayor of Beziers, Robert Menard, decided on May 27th 2024, France’s national day of resistance, to build a bronze’s bust of Aner. (2) This statue was built by the French sculptor and artist Olivier Delobel. It figures in a street called l ’Allee de l ’Ukraine Libre, or “Alley of the Free Ukraine”, next to other figures that represent resistance, such as the young Mahsa Amini, a young Iranian that was killed in 2023 for resisting the dictature regime in Iran, or Sophie Scholl, a young German student that was beheaded in 1943 for protesting the nazi movement. As a great defender of Israeli’s right to existence and to defend itself, Robert Menard also voted to twin the city of Beziers with the kibbutz Nir Oz, in remembrance of all the October 7th’s losses. On Aner Shapira’s statue is explained in French that Aner was an Israeli musician that, on October 7th, resisted the Hamas’ terrorists, and sacrificed his life to save others (3). Alongside the other busts, Aner’s statue accompanies the symbol of resistance, and is a very important help to the recognition of Israel’s history in a world where there is a rise of antisemitism and of fake news in the media.

Culture/Music

As mentioned earlier, Aner Shapira was a musician that used to write hip-hop/rap songs. After his death, his parents found on his computer many recordings and texts. To honor his memory, they decided in March 2024 to release an album, intitled “Introduction to Anerchism” , a play on word between his name Aner and the word “anarchism” (4). This album constitutes of six works that Aner wrote and partly produced, with the most popular song being “שנאת אחים”, or “Hatred of Brothers”, featuring the singer Shaanan Streett, who added a post-mortem verse to the song (5). In all of his songs, Aner shared his point of views on Israeli culture, political and societal conflicts. In order to respect his desire to share his work and ideas, the whole Shapira family helped produce and release the songs, but also created a website to share Aner’s story, and sell some merchandise, based on Aner’s multiple drawings and sketches (6).

Literature

Ever since October 7th, there have been many literary works reporting the tragic events in Israel, as well as the stories of each war victims and heroes. Aner Shapira’s story is reported in the book יום אחד באוקטובר [One Day in October], written by Yair Agmon and Oriya Mevorach (7). This project is a collection of monologues about forty heroes of October 7th, to remember and honor the actions of these regular people on this terrible day. In addition to that, a book got released in July 2024, entitled לכודים - מיגונית הגבורה בצומת רעים [Trapped – Shield of Heroism at the Reim junction] (8). This documentary work focuses on the bunker where Aner Shapira and other participants of the Nova Festival hid during the terrorist attacks. It describes Aner’s heroic combat, as well as the stories of those who survived, and the unfinished story of the ones who are still kept hostages in Gaza, like Hersh Goldberg-Polin, one of Aner’s best friends.

References

1. Cohen, N. (2023, December 1). Amit Mann, Ben Shimoni, Awad Darousha, Aner Shapira- Heroes 02.jpg. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved July 28, 2024, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amit_Mann,_Ben_Shimoni,_Awad_Darousha,_Aner_Shapira-_Heroes_02.jpg 2. Faux, F. (2024). La fratrie d'Aner Shapira autour de son buste, inauguré par Robert et Emmanuelle Menard [Shapira's family around Aner's statue with Beziers' mayor and his wife]. Midi Libre. https://www.midilibre.fr/2024/05/27/le-heros-israelien-aner-shapira-a-lhonneur-lors-de-la-journee-nationale-de-la-resistance-a-beziers-11976961.php 3. Delobel, O. (2024, May 29). Inauguration du buste en bronze d'Aner Shapira. Olivier Delobel Sculpteur. https://www.delobel-sculpteur.com/actualite-artistique/80-inauguration-du-buste-en-bronze-daner-shapira 4. ענר שפירא. (n.d.). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved July 28, 2024, from https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A2%D7%A0%D7%A8_%D7%A9%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%90 5. Shapiro, Aner. (2024, March 12). שנאת אחים (עם שאנן סטריט). YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgNrjQeJyvU 6. Shapiro M., et al. (2024). Aner Shapiro. https://anershapiro.com 7. Agmon, Y., & Mevorach, O. (2024). יום אחד באוקטובר [One Day in October]. Maggid Editions. https://korenpub.co.il/products/%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9D-%D7%90%D7%97%D7%93-%D7%91%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A8 8. Horowitz, N., & Dagin, A. (2024). לכודים - מיגונית הגבורה בצומת רעים [Trapped – Shield of Heroism at the Reim junction]. ידיעות אחרונות. https://www.ybook.co.il/book/9012/%D7%9C%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%93%D7%99%D7%9D%20%20%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%AA%20%D7%94%D7%92%D7%91%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%94%20%D7%91%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%AA%20%D7%A8%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%9D MauraneL (talk) 09:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some of these sources aren't reliable unfortunately... Andre🚐 21:57, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "hero" to hero 2A0A:EF40:E1C:3E01:F0DF:1D2C:89A2:5070 (talk) 21:46, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Andre🚐 21:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please edit “with additions by Israel musician Sha'anan Street.”, changing the surname to “Streett”. Also, it may be a good idea to slightly reword — rather than “additions” it might be worth being more precise and reflecting that it’s basically an additional verse appended (as a discrete section, where the current wording sounds like it might be a more integrated thing with little bits sprinkled throughout etc.). Also, I would definitely change “Israel” to “Israeli”, and potentially change “musician” to “rapper”, but I’m not sure if there’s a particular convention regarding that. 2A01:73C0:958:1A69:F582:F69A:2070:518E (talk) 12:36, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @2A01:73C0:958:1A69:F582:F69A:2070:518E, I have corrected the spelling of the name and adjusted Israel to Israeli. Streett's site describes them as an artist, rather than a rapper so I have left that alone for now. Please submit a new request in the format "Change X to Y" if you come up with a better word than "additions" or want to revisit the musician/rapper bit. Thanks, -OXYLYPSE (talk) 22:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]