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Requested move 23 October 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 15:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


– The engineer is highly notable as a creator of modern email protocols, as acknowledged by his receipt of the IEEE Internet Award, and he is identified as David H. Crocker for his receipt of that award and his authorship of IETF RFC 733 and IETF RFC 822, so he is clearly sometimes known as "David". Of course, "Dave" is a common diminutive used for many (probably most) people named David. A pageview comparison is here, but the article about the engineer was only recently created (on 2 September 2024). In the short time since that article was created, it has already been more popular for readers than the article about the lawn bowler, and sometimes has exceeded the readership of the article about the public policy professor. As far as I can tell, the word "network" is unnecessary for disambiguation purposes, so it should be removed. Alternatives to consider for "(academic)" could be "(professor)", "(public policy professor)" or "(public policy)". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:09, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nomination, paired with the creation of a David Crocker disambiguation page (with Dave Crocker redirecting to it) that would list all four men, none of whom appears to exhibit renown sufficient to overwhelm the combined notability of the remaining three men. —Roman Spinner (talkcontribs) 19:00, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is Dave Crocker (network engineer) also an academic? he worked for four years at UCLA implies yes, in which cas (academic) doesn't work. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    He eventually obtained a PhD (7 years after his time at UCLA), but he was an undergraduate student while at UCLA. I lean toward saying his work on ARPANET as an undergraduate would not be considered an academic position. His CV doesn't even seem to mention his time at UCLA except to say he got his bachelor's there in 1975! (Before he got his bachelor's degree, he was already listed as an author or credited by name in 15 RFCs!) His bachelor's degree was obtained in psychology, not engineering. According to his CV, he was a researcher at RAND Corporation 1975–1978, apparently while working on his master's degree at USC (not UPenn like the Wikipedia article said until a minute ago). Then he was in a PhD program at University of Delaware 1978–1982. His CV says he was a "Co-Principal Investigator" at U. Delaware during that time, but that's not a professorship – it seems more like a graduate student researcher role, so I wouldn't consider it a career academic position. Once he obtained a PhD, he immediately left the university to work for a commercial company, and worked only for companies after that. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:50, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.