Talk:Dave Spector
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Japanese ability
[edit]I'm not sure that his Japanese is as good as this article states. My Japanese friend has said his pronounciation is not as good as a native speaker's and the way he says things (choice of words/sentence structure, not pronounciation) is strange and sometimes hard to understand. This is a second-hand judgment so I didn't make any changes to the article. 65.29.62.75 20:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- If your Japanese friend can find an article or comment supporting this view somewhere on the web or in a printed publication (it doesn't have to be in English), you could say this in the article and cite the reference. An example of a reference from a Japanese media publication is in the article for the Kano sisters. Cla68 00:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I wouldn't doubt it, considering how fabricated his existence is. However, he has done a few speaking tours, so he does have a better command of Japanese than most foreigners, which gives him points. Neoyamaneko
He is a fluent speaker. I'd like to see your Japanese friend go on live TV and try to be entertaining under that type of pressure. There are plenty of Japanese people whose pronunciation would be judged as less than perfect if they were subject to the same type of scrutiny as foreigners are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.130.21.18 (talk) 01:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
In any case, the article, as it stands, is WEAK, INSUFFICIENT, INADEQUATE and wholly unaccepatable on the HOW and WHY and WHEN that he learned the Japanese language. Starhistory22 (talk) 04:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Strange math?
[edit]The article states he's lived in Japan since 1983, and then says "In 1989, the then 25-year resident of Japan[...]"... CüRlyTüRkeyTalkContribs 00:39, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. I've removed the problematic wording. --DAJF (talk) 01:03, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
POV check
[edit]I nominated this article for a POV check. There are very few references, and it sounds autobiographical. Chisme (talk) 21:12, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- There's no question about it; this article maintains almost NO neutrality (quite possibly the most offensive example I've come across here). Nor does it provide context (nor sources) except that Spector may at least have actually said what he's quoted as saying here. Mostly comes off as a smug look-at-me-here-in-Tokyo-making-half-a-mil-a-year waxy self-justification page. I've made half-a-mil-a-year too but I'd never lack self-respect as to spout it in any interview of public record; probably not even while nudging-papa-with-a-smirk privately. If there were someone willing to spend the time, there are plenty of other sources about Spector to supply this article, but they might not meet with the subject's approval (by whom this article seems to be written) and judging by the dates on this talk page it seems like there's noone who really cares. Trouble is, Spector is in fact one of the "go-to" gaijin, regularly appearing on any number of Japanese variety shows or as a "panelist" on topical shows, but given the state of such Japanese programming I'm not sure that's something Dave is actually proud of or even something he should be proud of. Even the LA Times article included in the sources sounds like it was written as either tongue-in-cheek "get-a-load-a-this-guy" or as payback puff-piece by some LA-jin for whom Spector helped promote something in Tokyo. I have neither the time or interest myself except to say: Dave! Tend to this! Or have one of your minion tend to this! It might be a laugh simply to know that this kind of ego-stroke existed on wikipedia this long, but ultimately you have to ask yourself "are people laughing with me or at me?"; as a regular on Japanese TV that's a concept you ought to be familiar with! Japanglish (talk) 13:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
How about paring this entry down to a few short paragraphs...
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I'd like to propose a radical BS-tomy of this article. First & foremost, the subject may have some fleeting notablity over on Wikipedia日本, just like the almost uncountable porn actresses who have their own entries, but here he's an absolutely nobody. WP:N
Any objections? I would like some sort of consensus on how much to keep though - advice please - then I'll break out the scalpel. TIA! Cypella (talk) 12:28, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- As per feedback on my Talk page, I've taken the scalpel to this one. We'll see if new anonymous reverters don't pop up immediately ;) BTW - does anybody remember that expose one of the Tokyo English weeklys ran on this guy about fifteen yrs ago - the well-documented/researched one that showed he'd been lying about several of his qualifications, ie. membership in the Screen Actors Guild or something like that. If I could just find the reference... Cypella (talk) 11:18, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Jewish?
[edit]Why did someone erase that he is Jewish? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.222.175.101 (talk) 15:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- Because, as per WP:BLP, claims about religion or ethnicity of living persons require reliable sources to back up the claims presented. A user-edited Wiki-based site unfortunately does not constitute a reliable source. --DAJF (talk) 23:13, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Also, how is Jewish an ethnicity? It's not something one would tick on a census form. You don't say a person is Christian-American or Muslim-American.76.26.129.12 (talk) 15:45, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Who is a Jew? Even Jewish communities dispute whether it's more important to define it as a religion or an ethnicity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.5.147.143 (talk) 20:04, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- He is david mark spector and spector is jewish name.[1]--Takahiro4 (talk) 12:10, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- A Jewish name does not make a person Jewish. David Spector (talk) 22:56, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
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