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Obiously this man didn't run for VP in 2000 if he died in 1989. At first I thought that this was vandalism but apparently it was in the original article and just a mistake. I have tried to correct it. Rlquall 21:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Darlington Hoopes/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Goldsztajn (talk · contribs) 22:35, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Parking this here to for the reivew. --Goldsztajn (talk) 22:35, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. Copy editing needed (see below). Structure of article needs improvement, in particular, descriptions of the subject's life do not flow chronologically, but jump back and forth across multiple periods. There's one sentence about Hoopes' life after the 1956 presidential nomination, yet he lives until 1989...seems a very large gap.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. Generally fine, however, lead needs copy-editing:
  • First paragraph: uses "served" twice (and used again in second paragraph, third sentence)
  • Second paragraph, second sentence: uses "multiple" twice
  • Second paragraph, second sentence: repeats role as chair of the party, but this is already mentioned in the first paragraph
  • Second paragraph, third sentence: use of "presidential" four times
  • "Hoopes conducted the last presidential campaigns of the Socialist Party of America" ― this is ambiguous, what does conducted here mean? Ran the campaign or was the candidate? (if the latter, this is already mentioned in the sentence before). Generally, use of "last" would mean a singular event ― was the 1956 election the last? In this case 1952 and 1956 cannot both be last.
  • "He briefly joined the Social Democratic Federation in the 1930s before returning to the Socialist Party and later joined the Socialist Party USA after the dissolution of the Socialist Party." This sentence covers an almost 40 year period ...I'm not sure mentioning the SDF is that significant that it needs inclusion in the lead.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. Thumbs up icon
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). See comment in 3a.
2c. it contains no original research. Thumbs up icon
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. Thumbs up icon
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. The difficulty here is that the article at present givens no indication of what he actually believed in or supported. There is not a single indication of a policy position he took, a political view he held. To mention just a few points: He served in the Pennsylvania State Assembly for three terms - what did he do there? (details are readily available; child labour legislation, opposition to draft legislation inimical to workers' interests). Hoopes was involved in one of the most important splits in the US left politics in the 1930s and also part of one of the most important unity process in post-war US left politics, yet the article gives no indication of his role or views of these significant political events, that subsequently shaped in important ways New Deal politics in the 1930s and the New Left int eh 1960s, respectively.

This problem with the lack of 'politics' in the article stems from the over-reliance on contemporary newspaper reports to provide information about him (according to my count, 27 of the 33 citations are of this nature). As such, sources which present an overall or analytical assessment are lacking. It's a very noticeable absence that J Paul Henderson's biography of Hoopes is not cited once in the article. Other works which could offer the necessary political perspective and context which would be useful: Carole Boehm's 1973 Master's Thesis ("Darlington Hoopes, Sr. -- Radical?"), Kenneth Hendrickson's discussion of the rise and fall of the Socialist Party administration of Reading, PA in the 1930s [1] [2]. Even general histories covering the Socialist Party, such as Jack Ross' (2015) "The Socialist Party of America: A Complete History", would be a good reference point for context.

3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). Thumbs up icon
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. Thumbs up icon
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Thumbs up icon
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. Thumbs up icon
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. somewhat limited, but understand the difficulty in finding images. This 1952 election poster is possibly public domain, an addition like that would be very good for the article. While not necessary for GA status, adding alt-text is worthwhile for accessibility purposes.
7. Overall assessment. Darlington Hoopes is a fascinating figure in US history and emblematic of the Socialist Party's greatest strengths, but also its most profound weaknesses. He's deserving of strong coverage and it is a worthy effort to get this to GA status. I hope the review proves helpful in future efforts with the article. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 02:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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@Goldsztajn: Just wanted to let you know that the nominator, Jon698, has been inactive for several weeks. See this discussion on his user talk, concerning my review of one of his other articles. If you haven't started reviewing yet, I'd suggesting postponing it until we figure out what to do with his outstanding nominations. Edge3 (talk) 23:39, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. As it's a fail, I'll close the nomination. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 02:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]