Talk:Danny Shay

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Review: February 24, 2014. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Danny Shay appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 November 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that baseball manager Danny Shay was acquitted of murder after shooting a man in an argument over some sugar?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2013/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Danny Shay.

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Sportsguy17 (talk · contribs) 21:26, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And we meet again Major League Baseball buddy. I'm glad to review this article. I am a WikiCup participant, but this in no way will affect the review. I do have classes this week, so this review may take up to a week. Thanks. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 21:26, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As I said earlier, this article is looking good. Most of the involved changes will be a matter of proper sentences and organizations of sections. So, let me start off:

Lead

The part in the lead about the shooting could be improved. Change "In an argument stemming from a request for sugar, Shay shot a black waiter at a hotel cafe; he claimed self-defense and was acquitted of murder charges" to "On May 3, 1917, Shay shot a black waiter at a hotel café during an argument stemming from a request for sugar. At the trial, he claimed defense and was acquitted of murder charges." This gives it historical context. It is really awkward to read it without the historical context of the date.
Also change "He suffered a stroke late in life" to "He lost the ability to use his right arm and hand after a stroke late in his life", again giving it meaning and purpose.

These are my initial thoughts and I'll let you make the changes as such. I don't see a lot of issues with the rest of the article, but I'll take a look tomorrow. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 00:28, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I addressed those. Thanks. EricEnfermero ^HOWDY! 01:33, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here is my section-by-section:

Early life and career

Not many sources for the first paragraph. Unless the reference at the end covers it, then source things such as the black settlers and that the town was characterized by tense relations.
Remove the "According to Baseball-Reference.com" bit. It is better served as being sourced by the Baseball-Reference.com source. In the second sentence of the second paragraph, add "his" to the beginning of the sentence.
The rest of the section looks good.

MLB career

This section is all good.

Post-MLB career

This section is all good.

Shooting and trial

This section is all good

Later life

This section is all good

Just address the Early life and career concerns and then this article should be passing. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 03:43, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The whole paragraph from the early life section comes from the one listed source. It's unfortunately the only one I could find that addresses his early days in detail, especially pulling in the racial climate where he grew up. Fixed the second bullet as suggested. The previous source suggests that he left home for minor league baseball in 1895, so I was clarifying that BR didn't list any stats until 1897. I think you're right though - "first recorded" is already there, BR is generally our "go to" for stats, and we can see reference details without mentioning them in the text. Thanks for the review. EricEnfermero ^HOWDY! 03:59, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then, pass it is

. I'm glad I got to review another one of your GA nominees. Good job! Sportsguy17 (T • C) 11:35, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]