Talk:DT-Manie

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Pronounciation guide

Can someone add the pronounciation for the items in the bullet list? I don't speak Dutch, so I don't intuitively see the complication with the endings. (In other words, the article doesn't explain why these verb conjugations are difficult, and a non-Dutch may not immediately understand.) If the pronounciations are all the same, can someone find a source to confirm that?

• Supāsaru 14:45, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Native Dutch speaker from The Netherlands here. All words ending in d, dt and t are pronounced with final /t/ (like English hat); this is due to final-obstruent devoicing. Even though those all sound like t, they are not spelled like that: in verbs the etymological spelling prevails. This sometimes causes trouble, because for many people it is not intuitive which one to pick. These are usually called dt-fouten ("dt-mistakes") in Dutch -- see nl:dt-fout. I have never heard of the term "dt-mania" (might be Flemish though?)

Because this article sounds like an advertisement for this "dt-mania" learning system, and is mostly unsourced, I would suggest to move it to "dt-mistakes" or similar. Alternatively it could be merged with T-rules (which I haven't heard of either, but seems to be the way that non-native speakers are taught this).

For reference, the way that I was taught this in primary school was pretty simple: if you have a verb whose stem ends on -d, to figure out if you write -d or -dt, just replace it by another verb (like lopen) -- if you hear a -t with lopen, you also write it for your original verb (obtaining -dt in the process). (Of course this works for native speakers only, who know how to conjugate lopen intuitively.) --2A02:A453:89C9:1:1CA1:4286:E3EB:5F7A (talk) 22:22, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]