Talk:DDT (professional wrestling)

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Pictures, ANimated Gifs

This article needs pictures, or better, animated gifs of the moves to fully explain them. I am aware of how much work that is but it occurred to me and I wanted to list it here a future improvement. Dachande (talk) 22:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion moved from Talk:Professional wrestling throws/Archive 1 --HBK 15:06, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

DDT

why is the DDT named after some chemical DDT???? I was under the impression it stood for Death Defying Trap. Feel free to prove me wrong, i haven't seen any evidence either way AlbinoMonkey

I always heard DDT stood for Devistating Drop Technique

Jake the Snake, arguably the most famous user of the DDT as a finisher, referred to it at least once as "Damien's Dinner Time."

But I still say the best guess is that it was named after the chemical. --Jgriffey 17:31, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I don't remember Jake ever having used that name for the move. In fact, the only time I remember Jake being asked what the name DDT means, he repiled, simply, "It means the end!" --HBK 06:50, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

In a shoot interview Roberts was asked where he got the name DDT... he replied that during the time he was deciding on the name an incident was on the news about a DDT chemical spill so he decided to use the name DDT.---Paulley 15:24, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the DDT predates Jake the Snake's career. The name might not, however. — Gwalla | Talk 05:56, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Actual Inventor of the DDT?

The article mentions that Jake Roberts invented the DDT; However, I have also seen mention of Genichiro Tenryu inventing the move early in his career. He used the name Dangerous Driver Tenryu for the move, similar to how Naoya Ogawa called the STO the Space Tornado Ogawa.--Maikerutx 5 July 2005 21:31 (UTC)

I've never heard of this, but I do remember reading or hearing that the DDT move has been used before Roberts started using it, but can't remember by who, so I removed the claim that he invented the move.

—Lakes 5 July 2005 22:05 (UTC)

I've understood that DDT move is very old, but Roberts was one who made it famous. --213.139.183.195 10:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was once told and saw that the orginal Tiger Mask invented the DDT however i could be wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.152.200.36 (talk) 16:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On youtube there is a 1977 match between Antonio Inoki and Ricky Choshu against mexican wrestlers Black Gordman and The Great Goliath (with the "Asian Terrors" masked gimmick), during the match Gordman uses a DDT on Choshu and it doesn't seem a botched move. The video can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOv0Gft4uTA

Exploders

Exploders and T-Bones should be classified as suplexes, not DDTs.

The exploder DDT is like a fisherman DDT. As you know, both the exploder suplex and the fisherman suplex are suplexes but they can also end in the DDT. PCE

Pictures

Why are all the pictures from the WWE/TNA? And why are so many from WWE women's matches? For example, we have Beth Phoenix for Michinoku Driver (why this is not TAKA is a little strange) and Mickie James as Tornado DDT (Eddy Guerrero or other luchadore would be a better choice). I might be a bit of a move nut but I believe that the pictorial credit should be given to the inventors/most famous users of the wrestling move in question Would it be all right to change the images to that of the most famous users of the move (e.g. TAKA Michinoku for Michinoku Driver)?

Protection

I've semi-protected the article due to edit warring. But, there is not a single reference in either article. I've dealt with this kind of crap at Goth Metal articles with Leyasu and Deathrocker (arguing over their preferred genre defintions and which band is in which genre based seemingly on nothing more than their own opinions) and I'm not happy to see it here. I have no way of knowing which description of some wrestling move is more accurate; both versions look like original research/personal observations and conclusions. I suggest you find some kind of appropriate third-party source rather than arguing over what looks like personal opinion. Thatcher131 05:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tap?

One thing I've always noticed is that when a wrestler preforms a DDT they always seem to quickly tap them on the back before they fall backwards, even wrestling games have it as part of the move's animation. Does anyone know why this is done? (I assume it's to warn the opponent they are about to drop since the risk of head/neck injury is high and the wrestler's positions would prevent verbal/visual communication... but I've never see it mentioned anywhere. If anyone knows the answer it could probably be added too the article. --Zikar 01:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yea as far as i know its to comunicate with the opponent about when to drop/throw out their legs to allow themselfs to fall. I agree it is worth mentioning though its hard to state as fact as it really cant be sourced.---Paulley

So far that's just speculation. Reasonable speculation, sure, but not something we could really put in the article. WPPW has enough trouble with sourcing. — Gwalla | Talk 06:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't there a move called the 720 DDT?Fclass 20:12, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Never heard of it. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, of course, but the name implies that somebody performs two full 360° revolutions in midair, which really doesn't seem physically possible without mechanical assistance. — Gwalla | Talk

It exists and is performed by Jody Fleisch, however the way it is performed explains how it is possible: Fleisch faces away from the ring while standing on the apron and twists while jumping to land on the top rope while facing the ring (180 degrees), from here springboarding towards his opponent while performing a 360 degree twist in mid air (540 degrees). He then catches his opponents head in a front facelock and performs a 180 degree tornado DDT (720 degrees). Hence the 720 DDT. –– Lid^(Talk) 23:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see. Thanks! — Gwalla | Talk 02:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the data.Fclass 18:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fireman's carry DDT

Isn't this the same as the F-5? 12.73.239.76 06:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

F-5 doesn't include a front facelock. –– Lid^(Talk) 07:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The F-5 is, IIRC, a fireman's carry swung out into a powerslam. It's not a DDT at all. — Gwalla | Talk 23:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Powerslam? How would that be? The opponent is thrown away, not driven down with the bodyweight of the performer. ↪Lakes (Talk) 06:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it's more of a falling bodyslam. — Gwalla | Talk 20:13, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spin-out fireman's carry facebuster  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.109.143 (talk) 02:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spike DDT

Can somebody please describe me what a spike ddt is thank you220.240.167.54 (talk) 05:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's right there listed alongside the other DDT variaions. PCE

"women and rookies"

That sentence does not read right. A rookie is a rookie no matter what their gender. WWE Divas often get to TV with a DDT or facebuster as a finisher, but I don't see how that's rationale for putting such a clunky sentence in. In other companies, a rookie worker is often given a 'safe' finisher regardless of gender. Sordyne (talk) 08:26, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That was clearly added by someone as OR. Must have been overlooked. Nikki♥311 23:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Blading (professional wrestling) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 14:14, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DDT in Amateur Wrestling?

Is there anything in the rules of Olympic Freestlye wrestling to specifically outlaw a wrestler getting a front chancery and then falling backwards so the opponent's head takes the brunt of the fall? 62.190.148.115 (talk) 16:17, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]