Talk:Crown Jewel (2018)/GA1

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 15:03, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria - Nope Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:06, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
• It contains copyright infringements - Copyvio seems fine. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:06, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). - No tags
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. - No sign of edit warring. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:06, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Links

• No Dablinks Y Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
• Checklinks brings up some issues on two sources that need fixing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Prose

Lede

• Could we remove cites from the lede? It's a summary, and doesn't need cites (it should be attributed in prose). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:07, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• WWE needs to be spelled out on first use. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:08, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Comment: WWE is a pseudo-acronym. It does technically stand for World Wrestling Entertainment, but they no longer go by that name for the promotion. It's just WWE. --JDC808 ♫ 07:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

• The event was the second event WWE held in Saudi-Arabia and hosted the first-ever WWE World Cup tournament "to determine the best in the world". - fluff. They've had loads of tournaments. They've had them for world titles. Sentence also needs to start The event was the second WWE event held in Saudi Arabia, after WWE Greatest Royal Rumble in... Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Comment: Reworded to remove some repetition. --JDC808 ♫ 07:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

• "who retired in 2010" - Retired is a strong word in pro wrestling. Terry Funk has had 80 of them. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• In the penultimate match, Shane McMahon defeated Dolph Ziggler to win the WWE World Cup after replacing The Miz, who was ruled unable to compete after originally qualifying for the final. - WP:INUNIVERSE. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• Brock Lesnar defeated Braun Strowman to win the vacant Universal Championship for a record second time. - Brock Lesnar defeated Braun Strowman to win the vacant WWE Universal Championship. For a record second time is ridiculous. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Comment: Lee, why is that ridiculous? It's a fact that he was the first two-time champion. --JDC808 ♫ 07:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

A record second title reign? Embelishment. Sure, technically it's a record because no one had held it more than once, but to call it a record second title reign is over-the-top. Second reign is plenty. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:31, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

• Due to the controversy surrounding the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, - That was hardly the only reason there was controversy! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• Last paragraph needs expansion. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Background

• This section doesn't cover the first event at all, other than it being announced. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:26, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Comment: This has been rewritten so the focus is more on the partnership than Greatest Royal Rumble. --JDC808 ♫ 08:55, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

• " anti-black rant" - Well, he actually ranted about a lot of things; and the actual term is used later, so this is redundent. It wasn't really anti-black, and that phrase would needto be sourced. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:26, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Storylines

• although Lesnar had a contractual rematch, it would not occur for an indefinite period of time - What does this mean? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Comment: That literally means exactly what it means. The rewording introduced an odd flow. He had a guaranteed rematch, but the general manager stated he would not receive it for a very long time. --JDC808 ♫ 07:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

• kicking in the cell door and attacking both men - "kicking in"? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Didn't write this myself, but yes, he kicked the door in.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• thus ruling the match a no contest and Reigns retained the championship. - aren't these matches generally no DQ? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Yes, but it was ruled a no contest as both men could not continue. Also WWE logic.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• Acting General Manager - Should not-be capitalised. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

It's his title here. --JDC808 ♫ 07:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

• WWE World Cup - Italicized? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• free agent - This is a storyline thing. He's not actually non-contracted. Even if he was, it's jargon for non-sport readers. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Disagree with the change of this. At this time, wrestlers could only appear on one brand. John Cena, however, could appear on both as a "free agent". --JDC808 ♫ 07:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

That's not what I'm calling an issue. The issue is, that he wasn't a free agent, he was a contracted employee (well, as close as you can be in wrestling). In kayfabe, he was free to compete for both brands, and called a free agent. However, in sports a free agent is someone who is yet to sign a contract, and cannot compete for any club. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Agree. the free agent is written In-universe. Cena is under contract with WWE, a no-wrestling fan would think he is a real free agent, like Minoru Suzuki in NJPW. A note is required (WWE calls their unassigned taletn free agent or something like that) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Reworded to explain the situation. --JDC808 ♫ 01:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

• • I simply removed the word entirely. As it is not relevant for the article per se, this should solve the problem.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 16:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
• That same episode, a 10-man "global" battle royal - Is global notable? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

That's what it was callled to insensate that the match was not only American wrestlers. --JDC808 ♫ 07:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

• • • • Is that notable though? Surely that irrelevent. Even if it's important, it should be explained. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
        • As with free agent, I completely removed it, as it is not relevant for the article itself. (It was a mock battle royal with jobbers dressed up as French or Spanish etc.)
• On the October 29 episode of Raw, Acting General Manager Baron Corbin replaced Cena with Bobby Lashley after praising Lashley's post-match beat down of Finn Bálor earlier that night - Couple things - How can he just replace him? And it's not a real "beat down". Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • As acting General Manager he apparently can replace people on a whim. Also WWE logic. Reworded the beatdown part.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Event

• During the pre-show, Shinsuke Nakamura defended the United States Championship against Rusev. After connecting with a "Matchka Kick" early in the match, Rusev applied his "Accolade" submission hold twice on the champion. In the climax, following a low blow to break free from the "Accolade", Nakamura performed the "Kinshasa" on Rusev to retain the title - move names gallore here. Probably only need to note the low blow (and link for jargon) and the finish. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• The actual pay-per-view opened with host Hulk Hogan hyping up the crowd for the event - This isn't exactly encylopedic information. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• link mask Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• looks like the finisher name thing goes throughout. I'll note it here early, but it's throughout. Most of the time, the moves are non-notable. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done removed most of them or linked them to the move they refer to.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• "Vintage Orton" has never been the name for the DDT, btw. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done removed it. But out of curiosity, don't the reporters use that name for the rope-elevated DDT he does a lot (I think it was his father's finisher)?--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• After a combined attack of Kingston and E, Ceasro had to break up the pin to save his partner. - huh? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• Mysterio sold the injuries sustained by Orton's previous assault. - sold is technical Jargon. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• lots of "in the end" and "in the climax", not well written. Needs updating Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• In the penultimate match, The Miz was originally supposed to face Dolph Ziggler (with Drew McIntyre) in the finals of the WWE World Cup. - Just needs a reword, something like "The penultimate match was the final of the WWE World Cup tournament between The Miz and Dolph Ziggler. Ziggler arrived at ringside with Drew MacIntyre, who was immediately removed from ringside. The Miz used this to get an advantage over Ziggler, however, he recieved a kayfabe injury"...
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• two tag teams ever faced each other in a tag team match. - How else could they have faced each other? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:10, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Controversy

• women under Saudi Law, women - Avoid repetition. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:15, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:43, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• although female performer Renee Young - She's hardly a performer. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:15, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:43, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• I don't think the wrestler names need to be in brackets for these points. Seems the same as wrestlers not needing real names in that section Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:15, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:43, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• Feels a little WP:NPOV strong against the event. But, I suppose there wasn't much pro-event press for it. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:15, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Yeah, not much positive press in that regard.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 07:43, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Reception

• direct quotes need inline citations directly after them, not just at the end of the paragraph. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
• Reception sections should really use the citations to make arguments, and not just a list of what individual references say. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Note: I have three very busy weeks at work ahead of me. I will try to do this over the weekend but in case I don't find the time, be aware that I might not be able to improve this until early July. Unless someone else volunteers to rewrite it of course, which I would absolutely support.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 16:43, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Aftermath

• Aftermath seems quite long. I didn't think they needed to be quite so in-depth. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 08:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs should be linked to the event. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 08:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• to win another title opportunity against Lesnar at the Royal Rumble - re-word. SOmething like "and would challenge Lesnar at the Royal Rumble". Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 08:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• It drew heavy criticism from various wrestlers on the Raw roster. - kayfabe or no? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
• Furthermore, Stephanie McMahon called her brother's actions "an insult to the entire Raw locker room" and urged Braun Strowman to rectify this wrong by leading "Team Raw" to victory at Survivor Series - is this important about Braun, isn't he mentioned above? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 08:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
• heel (professional wrestling) is mentioned without link or explination. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 08:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

• Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:17, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Placed on hold. Quite a few issues to iron out, but with some love, it could still pass. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:26, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
    • Quite happy with everything apart from the Reception section. JDC808, DasallmächtigeJ, HHH Pedrigree. If anyone can re-order that section, and re-write to be a better reception section, I'll pass this one. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:51, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
      • Reworked the Reception section. --JDC808 ♫ 22:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
• better. Looks good now. Passing Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:27, 19 June 2019 (UTC)