Talk:Croton Dam (Michigan)

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 1, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
October 27, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 12, 2007.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that Croton Dam (pictured), on Michigan's Muskegon River, was the first hydroelectric plant to transmit power at 110,000 volts or more?

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Well done

Nice article; quality references, great photos. One small quibble would be the "Misc" section. This has just one sentence, so I think it would be better to work into some other section. Johntex\^talk 19:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Johntex. I'm not sure who added the "Misc" section. Wasn't me. :) Personally I'd remove it, and save that tidbit for a future article about the Foote brothers, it has little or nothing to do with the dam, per se. I'll search the article history and see what I can find, perhaps suggesting to whoever put it in that they start articles on these guys... their story (as I found researching this article) is pretty fascinating, as is the history of Commonwealth Power (later Commonwealth Southern, later Consumers Power and other operating companies, later CME) itself. Me, I need to do articles on the Hardy and Rogers dams first though. I've the pictures already (see Commons for Hardy, they're already up... Rogers to follow as soon as I've drawn the locator map). ++Lar: t/c 20:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good article

This article is well written and meets all the GA criteria. My only suggestion for the future is that the final sentence could probably be best presented as a footnote. Johnfos 07:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I moved it to the "Other notes" section, as since it was referenced it didn't work well as a ref :) Thanks for the review. ++Lar: t/c 18:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lar. Good to see that you're interested in taking this article further. But I think I didn't make myself clear above. When I spoke of the "last sentence", I meant the sentence in the Other notes section. So I'm suggesting that the short Other notes section be removed and material incorporated into the main text or a reference. Thanks. Johnfos 20:34, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. You mean the bit about the hospital? See above. Personally I don't think that belongs in the article at all, it belongs in a bio. So.. should I put the power output back where it was and blow that hospital sentence away? Or what? I would ask that if I'm still not making sense, just make the change! :) ++Lar: t/c 21:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that looks better now. Thanks... Johnfos 00:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

maybe some more sources

(in progress)

http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/mi/mi0500/mi0527/data/mi0527.pdf html

rootology (T) 02:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed external link

I see the following link has been added and removed, more than once: Croton-Hardy Business Alliance ... let's discuss this rather than edit war. It seems a reasonable link to me... while it's mildly "promotional" it also has some information not yet in the Croton and Hardy dam articles. ++Lar: t/c 04:03, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

the reason I removed it was because it was spammed across multiple pages, with little regard to context or placement. Canis Lupus 04:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which other pages? (from your contribs I'm guessing Croton Township, Michigan, and Hardy Dam as the two other pages...) If it's just those three, I'd say that the link is at least marginally relevant to all three of those pages... (Croton and Hardy dams form a system, Hardy provides peak-load generation, and Croton re-regulates) although putting it at the top of the list of external links is a common "spammer" characteristic. ++Lar: t/c 05:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What Lar said. I couldn't see any reason for knee-jerk removal of the link. It certainly seems relevant to the articles into which it was placed and it did not seem to be excessively promotional in nature -- being roughly equivalent to many chamber of commerce links that are placed in articles with little objection. older ≠ wiser 11:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did move the link to the bottom on this page (and suggest it be moved to the bottom on the other two)... ++Lar: t/c 14:14, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Three pages all specific to the subject is spam? rootology (C)(T) 14:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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