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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Crescent (train) was copied or moved into Crescent (Southern Railway train) with this edit on May 31, 2023. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

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Scott Miller song

I'll leave it to someone else to put this in, but alt-country singer/songwriter Scott Miller has a song about this train line called (suprisingly enough), "Amtrak Crescent". http://www.metropulse.com/dir_zine/dir_2003/1351/t_citybeat.html

He did a tour sponsored by Amtrak. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omarcheeseboro (talk • contribs) 15:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Southern Crescent City car

"The Crescent City" car is located in Dalton, GA and has been donated to the city. It will be relocated to the citys refurbished Freight Depot on Sat June 18th 2011. Here is a link to the newspaper article. Feel free to add this to the article I don't know how to make reference tags. http://daltondailycitizen.com/local/x300517444/Dalton-to-move-historic-train-car Crazy Blue Eyes (talk) 05:41, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Future plans?

Are there any plans to cut this line in sections? To me it looks like NY-Greensboro/Charlotte, Greensboro/Charlotte-Birmingham, and Birmingham-New Orleans might work as well if the exchanges work well. This would have the benefit of increasing the amount of passenger cars in selected sections if necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.226.59.4 (talk) 11:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The PIP contemplates operating two coaches and the lounge between New York and Atlanta, with three coaches, the dining car and the sleepers continuing to Atlanta. I don't know if that's actually going to happen or not. Mackensen (talk) 12:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Service to suburban New Jersey stops added to northbound run?

It appears that Princeton Junction, New Brunswick, and Metropark have been added to the Crescent's northbound run (Amtrak 20). They appear in Amtrak's online schedule tool and on Amtrak's train tracker for current operations, and tickets can be booked for one seat-rides on Crescent-served stations that are not otherwise shared with the Northeast Regional or Carolinian (such as Greenville, SC or Atlanta, GA) to all three of these stations for the next year's worth of time in Amtrak's booking system. However, the official Crescent page on Amtrak's website does not list the three stops (unlike that of the Palmetto, which lists the three stops and New Carrolton on its stations served listing, despite Metropark being the only one of the stops listed to be served by that train in both directions).

With this information, I am not sure if I should modify the related station pages or not to note the stop and schedule changes. I'd like second opinions, if possible. Pokemonred200 (talk) 23:22, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These extra NJ stops only remain for Metropark, per searches of Amtrak site.Dogru144 (talk) 08:08, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Later schedule northbound?

Anyone have information on why the #20 trip was scheduled for later departure and for a longer trip? Prior to 2017, the trip began in NOLA: 7:00 am and arrived in NYP: 1:46 pm. Now, the train completes its trip at 6:01 pm. What happened?Dogru144 (talk) 08:12, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Split (and possible merges)

As I'm starting to fill in some of the mid-century history, it's clear that the modern Crescent shares nothing but a name with the pre-1970 Crescent. The Southern Crescent inherited both its routing and schedule from the Southerner, while the southbound Crescent/northbound Peach Queen (the opposite direction of each previously discontinued) became the Piedmont. I think the following would be a logical rearrangement:

Split the pre-1970 Crescent and its predecessors to a new article: Crescent (Southern Railway train)
Split information on the post-1970 Piedmont from Piedmont Limited (since the two shared a name and nothing else). Either merge to Crescent (Southern Railway train), or create Piedmont (Southern Railway train).
Possibly merge Southerner (U.S. train) to Crescent (train). Because the Southern Crescent and thus the modern Crescent was essentially just a renaming of the Southerner, it would make for a coherent history.

Thoughts? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:06, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The first two make sense to me. I see this as distinct from the Empire Builder, which was re-routed off the Burlington on A-Day but is fundamentally the same train and schedule, west of St. Paul anyway. I think I'd keep Southerner as a separate article; there's enough content to justify a split. Similar situation with Mainstreeter and North Coast Hiawatha. Mackensen (talk) 12:04, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me. I agree trains are better grouped by route/service than by name alone (i.e. if they have about the same routemap template). It was initially unclear to me that Southerner = Southern Crescent = Amtrak Crescent because the articles are all muddled, so clarity would be welcome. On the third point, I think there might be room in Crescent (train) for the all the Southerner info once all the pre-1970s Crescent info is split out. But it might be cleaner to keep separate articles with just a short summary and a link. QuincyMorgan (talk) 18:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]