Talk:Credo ut intelligam

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Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL Please give the source for the "credo ut intelligam" citation. Which work(s) of Augustine can it be found in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.105.137.77 (talk) 21:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Biblical basis?

I don't see this in the article, but it seems pretty important. When St. Augustine says, Nisi credideritis, non intellegetis "Unless you believe, you shall not understand" (sermon 43.7), he is making explicit reference to Isaias 7:9. The translation he'd have been working from would be the Old Latin, which, in this passage, is more or less a literal translation from the Septuagint, which reads καὶ ἐὰν μὴ πιστεύσητε οὐδὲ μὴ συνῆτε, where συνῆτε is a form συνίημι "to understand" (Strong's Greek 4920). (The Vulgate, however, renders it differently: Si non credideritis, non permanebitis "If you will not believe, you shall not continue".) 73.133.224.40 (talk) 11:58, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have added this information, with a source that mentions the differences between the Vetus Latina and the Vulgate versions of Isaiah 7:9. Veverve (talk) 04:47, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]