Talk:Craig-y-Nos Castle

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Spelling?

There's a lack of consistency in the spelling of the place throughout the article and the external links.

What is it now -

Craig-y-nos Craig-y-Nos Craig-Y-Nos Craig Y Nos

or something completely different???? Welsh speakers to the front! ChrisZ78 (talk) 19:25, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Welsh Language Commissioner guidelines for standardizing Welsh place names says that you should not deviate from the recommendations of Rhestr o Enwau Lleoedd/A Gazetteer of Welsh Place-Names ^[1] without good reason for place names. The book says that the village should be referred to as Craig-y-nos. Unfortunately the language commissioner's guidance on spelling doesn't include advice on naming buildings, so we have to check if there is anything else we can use.

The Brecon Beacons National Park website refers to the house as Craig-y-nos Castle in English and as Castell Craig-y-nos in Welsh. However The Royal Commission for Ancient and Historical Monuments in Wales refers to the house as Craig-y-Nos Castle in its listing.

So which spelling is correct?

While neither of these variations could be said to be wrong, I suggest that Wikipedia uses Craig-y-nos because the house is named after the village.

82.10.142.150 (talk) 21:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

^ Elwyn Davies, Rhestr o Enwau Lleoedd/A Gazetteer of Welsh Place-Names (3rd edn; University of Wales Press, 1967)

I'd go along with Craig-y-nos myself though I rather think the name of the village (if the scatter of houses can be said to amount to that) derives from the name of the castle as developed by Powell and then Patti, which in turn takes its name from the limestone cliff behind it. OS does not name the settlement but does name the house and the cliff at http://maps.nls.uk/view/101605586 though - unhelpfully one might be tempted to observe - in different styles! The truth as has also been observed is that all variations have been in use over the years. Geopersona (talk) 08:45, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Elwyn Davies, Rhestr o Enwau Lleoedd/A Gazetteer of Welsh Place-Names (3rd edn; University of Wales Press, 1967)

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