Talk:Corruption in Brazil

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April 2016

I imagine this page is going to experience significant changes it the near future, given the recent news. I would ask that editors refrain from any battleground behavior, and avoid any biased language even if factual. DaltonCastle (talk) 05:02, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

PTT - questioned text

"Supreme Court judge Gilmar Mendes famously said the PT (Workers' Party)-led governments of Lula and Dilma installed a kleptocracy in Brasil.^[1]"

I am under the impression that it is not really a PTT so much as an institutional thing. And Rousseff claims she was removed from office because she was investigating corruption. I am not an expert in this topic but I have been working on it and I have seen at least two reputable sources today that say that the PTT gave the police and courts more power to investigate corruption, so... This would seem to be at least not universally accepted as an assessment, and should have a source which is not a blog. Elinruby (talk) 01:59, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Gilmar Mendes acusa PT de cleptocracia". {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

Lula government section

redlink for "awarded statement" should be an ILL, name of target escapes me @Mathglot: if you have time please remind me so I can add to glossary Elinruby (talk) 04:35, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably thinking of delação premiada. But I looked for it in footnote 54 which was a dead link, but the Internet archive has it here. The article doesn't have the noun (delação premiada) but they have the verb delatar, right in the headline: "Por delatar mensalão, Roberto Jefferson se livra de prisão em regime fechado", i.e., "Roberto Jefferson gets off scot-free for blowing the whistle on the mensalão bribery case". (The first paragraph doesn't agree, and says he got a reduced sentence of 1/3 off his regular sentence.) The glossary already has delator (whistleblower) but not the verb, delatar, so that should be added.

I don't think it should be a red link, because that implies it might be an article some day, but it's just a dictionary term, and per WP:NOTDICT we don't have articles about terms, usually. We could've said something about Jefferson getting a "reduced sentence in exchange for blowing the whistle", which is what that horrible 'awarded statement' was trying to say, but because "whistle-blower" is pretty idiomatic and might be hard for ESL speakers, I changed it to "reduced sentence in exchange for his cooperation", which conveys the meaning in plain English, without ever having to resort to "whistleblower", much less delação premiada. So I think that's a good solution for now.

I'd just add what an awful job the editor did "translating" that whole section of the article; it came from this edit by indeffed sock EpicWikiLad (talk · contribs), and they have other edits at the article, which still needs a lot of cleanup, including the very next sentence, about the "cassation" of Jefferson. I'm just glad we won't be seeing any more translations from them anymore. Mathglot (talk) 06:14, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, yes. I was in this article re-acquainting myself with the processes and vocabulary Elinruby (talk) 14:43, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Gilmar Mendes acusa PT de cleptocracia". {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

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