Talk:Cool Girl/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 21:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Fine

Lead

The track was released for digital download on → The track was released for digital download and stream (see below)
The song is a downtempo electropop work with elements of techno and house music. → The song is a downtempo electropop work with elements of techno and house music, whily lirically addressed the themes about casual and commitment-free relationships.
The track was inspired by the "Cool Girl" monologue by character Amy Elliott-Dunne in the 2014 feature film Gone Girl. → last sentence of the second paragraph
According to the singer → However, according to the singer
Critics had diverse opinions about the meaning of the track, with some of them noting themes about casual and commitment-free relationships. "Cool Girl" received positive reviews from critics, who commended its production and lyrical themes. → "Cool Girl" received positive reviews from critics, who commended its production and lyrical themes. (the rest is above)

Comment: @MarioSoulTruthFan: I have issues with those comments above; the paragraph was structured to showcase a) the elements of the track b) the inspiration behind the lyrics, which would lead us to c) the opinion of the singer herself about the lyrics versus d) the opinion of the critics about the lyrics, which you can note are different.

You can merge the comment of the critics once they give their opinion. Otherwise critics are in every paragraph. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It received sales certifications in these countries as well as in France, Germany, Poland and the United Kingdom → mention some of the certifications
The music video and peformances can be in the last paragraph
Sweden's Idol 2016 → Sweden's Idol (I already know the date)
Idol 2016 → Idol (was it performed in another Idol show?)

Done

Background and development

Queen of the Clouds tour → year the tour ran between brackets
The Struts. They ask her if she wanted to write lyrics to it → The Struts and asked her if she wanted to write lyrics to it
They reunited later in Stockholm in early 2016 and finished the song → In early 2016, they reunited in Stockholm to finish the song.

Done

Release

It was made available for digital download on 4 August 2016 → It was made available for digital download and stream on 4 August 2016 (look at the Billboard source)
as the lead single from the artist's second studio album, Lady Wood (2016).[9][10] → two sources saying the same thing? Remove the headline one.
23 August 2016,[11] → source at the end of the sentence

It is to make the setence less clunky. If anyone has doubts can see so at the end of the sentence the confirmation on the source. This answers both questions, 3 sources at the end of a setence is more than enough. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:38, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Composition and inspiration

No need for the image of the actress we already know what is in the caption
Its instrumentation incorporates a deep synthesizer bass line. → website portion of Idolator shouldn't be shown, remove the performance source from here
Why do you have a publisher in the Spin magazine? No other source has publisher if it has work, please remove. You forgot a bracket in the pitchfork source
The song's main lyrical theme was inspired by the "Cool girl" monologue spoken by character Amy Elliott-Dunne, portrayed by Rosamund Pike, in the feature film Gone Girl (2014). During that scene, Elliott-Dunne says, "He loved a girl who doesn't exist. A girl I was pretending to be. The Cool Girl". The singer stated the monologue moved her because it showcased the way people tend to change themselves for somebody else → most fo this is alrady above, summarize it. Comment: Above where? the lead? --Paparazzzi (talk) 05:32, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, in the Background and development "She had recently watched the film Gone Girl (2014), and began to analyze a monologue by the character portrayed by Rosamund Pike talking about being a "cool girl".[1][2] Lo added, "I just remember this monologue that she has in the movie where she says she's changed a lot things [sic] about herself to become someone that she thought her husband would want."[2] Inspired by the monologue, she wrote the melody, chorus and pre-chorus with sarcastic lyrics and sent the track back to The Struts. In early 2016, they reunited in Stockholm to finish the song". MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Lyrics and meaning

Alim Kheraj of DIY → Alim Kheraj from DIY
Amy Mackelden of Bustle → Bustle's Amy Mackelden

Done

Critical reception

Kyann-Sian Williams of NME → Kyann-Sian Williams from NME
Madison Vain of Entertainment Weekly → Entertainment Weekly's Madison Vain
Beth Bowles of Exclaim! → Beth Bowles from Exclaim!
Adam R. Holz of Plugged In → unreliable see below

Done

Commercial performance

"Habits (Stay High)" and "Talking Body". → years of release in between brackets
acharts is not a reliable source, use the billboard one.
If it charted on the Canadian Hot 100, then the Canadian Digital Song Sales is just a component chart, remove it.
The following week, it peaked at number 15. It spent sixteen weeks on the chart, and → The following week, it peaked at number 15, spending a total of sixteen weeks on the chart. It
Swedish Recording Industry Association → Swedish Recording Industry Association (GLF), do similiar to the others.
to ear → to earn
Remove the auspop source from "It later reached the number 30 position"
Do the same for the following auspop source, you don't need two sources saying the same.
Silver, Platium, Gold → no capital letters
Thet text is quite clunky with the sources, which makes it hard to read, try to put them at the end of the sentences.

Done

Background and release

The film, co-written by Lo and Erem...who plays Lo's "self-destructive alter ego" → this is good information for the album, not for the single, let's focus on the music video for the song. The mention above is more than enough as the song is part of it. Not done

@MarioSoulTruthFan: the music video is part of the whole film, and background information about the film also can apply here.--Paparazzzi (talk) 18:14, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was not aware of that, make sure you said that, make it more clear. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:30, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Synopsis and reception

Fine

Live performances

Fine

Credits and personnel

Two collums would be enough
Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between the credits and the personnel. Comment: that's the. Copy the template and replace it for the "-". MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Engineering – John Hanes → John Hanes - mix engineer
First the names, then the credits. You have it the other way around Not done why is this a problem?--Paparazzzi (talk) 18:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Paparazzzi: See the guidelines: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#Personnel. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:29, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. --Paparazzzi (talk) 18:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Weekly charts

Fine

Year-end charts

Fine

Certifications

Fine

Release history

Fine

References

The Tidal source doesn't go directly to the song credits, fix it.
Jenesaispop, AllMusic, Idolator, Apple Music, BBC Radio, Headline Planet, IHeartMedia and Virgin Radio → is publisher

Question: @MarioSoulTruthFan: One user just pointed out to me (in the least respectful way) that websites which publish original content must be italicized. (MOS:MAJORWORK: "Website titles may or may not be italicized depending on the type of site and what kind of content it features. Online magazines, newspapers, and news sites with original content should generally be italicized"). I want to know if you have a different opinion about this. --Paparazzzi (talk) 18:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do, these are exceptions. Template:Cite_web#Website. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:18, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: it says that "Name of the work containing the source; may be wikilinked if relevant. Displays in italics. Aliases: journal, newspaper, magazine, periodical, website. "--Paparazzzi (talk) 20:05, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Those, howeever, are not works. Apple Music publishs the songs, for example. Just see their wiki pages and you will get the main idea.MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I could understand Apple Music, AllMusic, Virgin Radio, BBC Radio and IHeart Media as publishers. The rest are works. --Paparazzzi (talk) 00:09, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think Headline Planet, Idolator are works? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:43, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: They both publish original content.--Paparazzzi (talk) 00:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are right about that. Let them be MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:47, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Only wikilink once, Idolator, Spin, BBC Radio, Genius and Rolling Stone are wikilinked at least twice
Musicnotes.com → musicnotes
Plug In is a bias source due to their cristian afiliation. Remove it
Do you really need the Tidal source? You have the inlay notes, I would remove it.

Done

Overall

You can now address the issues. Let me know once you are done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:13, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: I have addressed all of your comments. Thank you for reviewing the article and tell me if something else is needed. Regards, --Paparazzzi (talk) 18:43, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Paparazzzi: I left the answer for the questions and what you have not done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: I have addressed all of your comments, including those who don't have a

Done template next to them. I left another comment above however. Regards, --Paparazzzi (talk) 20:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Paparazzzi: I'm making changes to the article, small ones see if you are ok with those.

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Small changes? You changed a lot about the article. You removed the aCharts source when I had already told you that it is a reliable source, you removed the Year-end Australian Streaming Chart even if the song did not chart on the Year-end Australian Singles Chart. You basically removed all of my comments on this discussion and modified the article to your like. What is this? --Paparazzzi (talk) 00:05, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a reliable source. You can use the Hot 100 source it gives you the same information. You said you did everything even those that didn't a had a done. You did zero on the commercial section. It charted on the australian regular charts. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:10, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: I basically included the wikilink in my comment, but since you removed my comments, I'm going to include it here again: WP:GOODCHARTS. Look at the aCharts column for the US row. It can be used. And I actually made changes to the commercial section, don't say I didn't. Paparazzzi (talk) 00:20, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Paparazzzi: Those changes regarding acharts are recent, I was not aware of that, my apologies. You did half of what I asked and not in the right way, most of those. I re-added the Year-end chart. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:25, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: I think I have the right to argue when I feel a comment is not right (if that's what you meant with me doing half of what I asked and not in the right way). I addressed all of your comments, I let you know which ones I did not made and why, while I completed the other ones. I hope that's clear. There's still the comment about the publisher vs work issue above... Paparazzzi (talk) 00:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Paparazzzi: Of course. You didn't explained that on the "commercial performance" section. You changed them. I explained it to you. It is done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:42, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: What else needs to be done? Regards, Paparazzzi (talk) 01:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Paparazzzi: Nothing else as far as I'm concerned, do you want to change anything? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:21, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: No, everything is fine. Regards, --Paparazzzi (talk) 13:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.