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Steve Yoo Heading
[edit]Why does this article call Yoo Seung-joon by his American name? He was known throughout his career as Yoo Seung-joon. Calling him by his American name was a deliberate insult used in Korea when he refused military service. He should be known by his Korean name in this article. Kkachi (talk) 13:51, 31 December 2012 (UTC)Kkachi
It doesn't matter what the intent behind using "Steven Yoo" was from the extreme limited perspective of the South Korean netizen community. What does he formally go by? Both variations of the name are prominently used. His Wikipedia page uses Steve Seungjun Yoo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Seungjun_Yoo) so I'd lean towards using that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.59.12.226 (talk) 07:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Notable enlistments Section
[edit]What purpose does this section serve in respect to providing information about conscription in South Korea? The section and its supporting references make up more than 60% of the article itself and does little to enhance the article. The entire section should be removed considering we're mainly talking about local stars who ranging from minor soap opera actors to short term boy band'ers who didn't willingly volunteer for military service but were drafted. It's not notable in the sense of Ed McMahon, Oliver Stone, and to some degree Elvis Presley who willingly enlisted (debatable for Elvis) and are known outside of a local venue. It's a useless list of names people don't know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.59.12.226 (talk) 07:50, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
As no one has given reason to keep this section I am removing it along with associated references. --144.59.12.226 (talk) 04:41, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- I don't get it either. I only see it as being of slight interest to K-pop/K-culture fans. 84.49.75.226 (talk) 17:57, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- I see it was restored in June 2014 after IP 144 removed it in June. It is continuing to get bigger and distracts from the actual topic of the article. So I'm going to fork it into a separate article. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- I have forked it to List of celebrity South Korean military conscripts. For those that love trivia, that list took up 71% of the page size. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:14, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
inconsictency in statistic
[edit]in the paragraph about conscription it says South Korea has the third longest conscription after Israel and Singapore. Yet in the article about North Korea Korean People's Army#Conscription and terms of service it says the Conscription there is between 3 to 5 years. That's far longer, yet not mentioned in the article. --Panoramedia (talk) 13:19, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
History, absence of
[edit]There's no history of the institution here, in particular, no notation of conscription during the Korean war, and whether it was forced or voluntary. The Northern Army forced conscription, but did the South do likewise? Was there conscription beginning in 1945? Or only after 1950? Theonemacduff (talk) 19:01, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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BTS and their Exemption
[edit]With BTS being the first K-pop group to be exempted from the mandatory military service, should they be mentioned as a rare exception in this article?
--Peppapig567 (talk) 07:26, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Second citizen service
[edit]What is the "second citizen service"? This should be explained a bit in the article. Stifle (talk) 14:41, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
Military Service System in South Korea
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result of this discussion was to merge the pages. -ink&fables «talk» 17:12, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi, there is another article, Military Service System in South Korea. It has a merge tag on it to this. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 00:33, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Support merge. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:17, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
- Support, not notable enough on its own unlike say the Selective Service System. PolarManne (talk) 16:08, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Wjddml (talk) 11:14, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Support, It seems that the two articles have the same content so a merger of articles is needed. SkyHigher (talk) 06:35, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Out with the tables
[edit]Hellow Wikipedians!
I'll put it bluntly; this article needs some serious work. I identified some major issues with this article that need fixing, because in its current form I find it quite uninformative and unreadable. Here's what I think is #1 on the list of Things That are Wrong With This PAge:
1. WP:NOTEVERYTHING. The tables in the sections "Term of South Korea military service", "Certificate of Military Registration", "Military Service Age" and "History of Military Service Age", "Determination of Physical Criteria"(which comprise like 80~90% of the article) are of extremely excessive detail that nobody really cares about, barring the Korean conscripts themselves(who wouldn't be looking at Wikipedia to learn that information anyway.) The tables are too long to read comfortably, and relevant information can be condensed down to a few lines of prose.
(The table showing the Korean military rank system alongside the American equivalents to them may be worth keeping since it's pretty compact and its contents useful.)
Many of these tables have been largely copy-pasted from the English page of the Military Service Act page of the Korean Legislation Research Institute. Even if the contents are factual, as per WP:NOTEVERYTHING we should avoid listing all there is to know about a subject.
Let me know what you think! Fishingboat II (talk) 09:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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