Talk:Committee for the Relief of the Black Poor

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Black Poor were released or escaped slaves

I have read the novel by Olaudah Equiano, where he explains that the Black Poor was the community of slaves that had set foot on the British Empire, since the Empire stated that they themselves were a slave-free kingdom, and any slave that set foot there would be automatically free. That made lots of black slaves to run away trying to get to British territories. Why isn't this mentioned on the main description of it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicojonesgodel (talk • contribs) 08:46, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to merge Black Poor into Committee for the Relief of the Black Poor

It is hard tosee what the Black Poor page adds - except confusion. e.g. Ignatius Sancho was not poor, but middle class: a shop keeper. The question of whether the East End waqs impoverished is very POV - consider Claude McKay's view that the real wealth of London lay in its docks . . . What is to be gained by having this as a seperate page to Black British and Committee for the Relief of the Black Poor (CRBP). The section on Immigration to Sierra Leone can all go in the CRBP page, which is the context in which the "Black Poor" were considered a aparticular group. This was also psecifically related to the fact that they were not able to return to their parish of origin, which is how most impoverished people accessed indoor or outdoor relief. Also teh question is much more a matter of unemployment rather than menial work - and there were comparable relief schemes at the time for such as the weavers in Shoreditch. Also if we look at the poverty ofsomeone like Ukawsaw Gronniosaw when he was in Colchester, his appeal for alms came about through his Christian connections. (But perhaps he should be on a Christian Poor page.) The tradition about the prostitutes in Deptford is un sourced, however I believe there was a petition by a group of women who fancied a better life in Africa than gutting fish in Deptford - but I am not sure of any reference to this.Harrypotter 21:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)some documents mention that, these white women are wives to these black poor also there where white men who are husbands to black women[reply]

Please merge.-- Zleitzen^(talk) 22:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. --Jetamors 00:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. However, the article must contain a widened section on the Black Poor itself. Behemoth 10:27, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did this merge today. Looks like Harrypotter had previously copied over one paragraph... I moved the remainder and did a light job of reorganizing and editing. Hopefully did not alter others' intent or meaning. Hult041956 17:03, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recent changes

Good to see the merger done, I did not have time to do it before. I have also made some significant changes:

All the documentation I have come across refers explicitly to London. If anyone has documented information of other locations, then please provide references.
The term was used specifically for those who were unemployed, and in the context of the English Poor Relief provisions. The Committee was set up because poor relief was organised through those in need returning to the parish where they were baptised. To extend the term to Black people who may have been disadvantaged - i.e. doing menial work -is unwarranted. But again if anyone can produce referenced reasons for thinking otherwise, that would be most interesting.

These observations (and the changes) are based on Braidwood's excellent book. If people would like specif items referenced, then this can be done, but I feel that a general reference will suufice. I intend to do some more work using this source material and Simon Schama's Rough crossingas well. I hope people find these changes useful.Harrypotter 13:23, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The three web pages you cite (with inline ref tags) also have some excellent info. You may be able to work some of that into this article. Hult041956 16:24, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed some recent changes which added confusion, perhaps through muddling up indigence and indigenous.Harrypotter (talk) 21:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After discussions with MassiveEartha (talk) I'm making some further additions to this Wikipedia article with references to a recent journal article published in History Matters this year.Mikesiva (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Indigent

I have restored the term indigent and removed the double reference to Black. I have also added the Poor Law box. I must admit I am at a loss to understand why Editor Wikiaddict8962, chose to remove this item from the page, particularly in the light if the remark above. It would be appreciated if Editor Wikiaddict8962 could explain their reasons before instituting such startling changes in future. Thanks, Harrypotter (talk) 13:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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More citations needed section

It was great to come upon this article from some reading I have been doing, however, seems to be lacking generally in terms of references backing-up the discussion made throughout. Only the second section of the article currently starts with references.

Adding the more citations needed section so this is flagged, however, will try to work on adding further citations as well, but unsure on the time I can give to this - hence the use of the template for others to be notified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamzze (talk • contribs) 12:10, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]