Talk:Commentary on the Apocalypse

This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Christianity Low‑importance

	Christianity portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Christianity, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Christianity on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChristianityWikipedia:WikiProject ChristianityTemplate:WikiProject ChristianityChristianity articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Spain Low‑importance

	Spain portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Spain, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Spain on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SpainWikipedia:WikiProject SpainTemplate:WikiProject SpainSpain articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Books

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Books. To participate in the project, please visit its page, where you can join the project and discuss matters related to book articles. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the relevant guideline for the type of work.BooksWikipedia:WikiProject BooksTemplate:WikiProject BooksBook articles

Middle Ages Low‑importance

	Middle Ages portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Middle Ages, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Middle Ages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Middle AgesWikipedia:WikiProject Middle AgesTemplate:WikiProject Middle AgesMiddle Ages articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Visual arts

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Visual arts, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of visual arts on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Visual artsWikipedia:WikiProject Visual artsTemplate:WikiProject Visual artsvisual arts articles

Geography Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Geography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of geography on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GeographyWikipedia:WikiProject GeographyTemplate:WikiProject Geographygeography articles

Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Geography To-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : See Requested articles/Social sciences/Geography, cities, regions and named places and Missing articles about Locations
Assess : Tag related article talk pages with {{WikiProject Geography}}. To help assess the quality and importance of geography articles, please see: Unassessed geography articles and Unknown-importance geography articles.
Cleanup : See Geography articles needing attention
Deletion sorting : Listed at Geographic related deletion discussions
Geographical coordinates : See Articles missing geocoordinate data by country
Infobox : See Geography articles needing infoboxes
Map : See Wikipedia requested maps
Notability : See Geography articles with topics of unclear notability
Photo : See Wikipedia requested photographs of places
Stubs : See Geography stubs

Content of the Manuscript?

What is the content of the Commentary on the Apocalypse manuscript? Aside from the inclusion of a map reflecting geographic knowledge of the time period, what does the manuscript say? What Apocalypse was the author referring to and when was it expected? Stevenmitchell (talk) 10:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The maps, a version of the T and O maps(that has its own wikipedia entry), are not in every illustrated copy of the Beatus manuscripts, and are not necessarily connected to Beatus' commentary; that's why I deleted this reference to the maps. The problem is that Beatus' original commentary is not available to us. We know his commentary only through the extant copies of illustrated manuscripts known as the "Liébana Beatus," and there is ambiguity as to the relationship between Beatus' textual commentary and the extant copies of the illustrated manuscript. the latter have been the source of interest, as the illustrations are very beautiful, they appear in various entries of Wikipedia, and they are in the public domain. I added to this entry the influence on Picasso's Guernica and Léger's paintings, because it is through art history (not religious studies or the history of the Adoptionist controversy!) that these manuscripts have become famous.HarryBarks (talk) HarryBarks (talk) 16:55, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article is now clearer on this. Johnbod (talk) 01:20, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted text about Muslim persecution of Christians in Spain=

I am removing the following text, not because I am judging its truth, but because it is unsourced. I cannot find anything this detailed about persecution of Christians in Spain. It looks like the Pact of Umar applied to Christians in the Iberian Peninsula. Again, no judgements but better documented statements are available.

The deleted text: "After 711 AD, Spanish Christians found themselves being persecuted by Muslims.^{[citation needed]} They could no longer practice their religion openly; bells and processions were forbidden; churches and monasteries were destroyed and were not reconstructed; persecutions often led to bloody outcomes.^{[citation needed]}"Jacqke (talk) 21:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jacqke, totally agree with you here. I know of no reliable source that documents a policy of bloody persecutions of Christians in Muslim Spain (Andalus). HarryBarks (talk) HarryBarks (talk) 14:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Commentary on the Apocalypse. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100407172159/http://casal.upc.es/~ramon25/beatus/beat_78.jpg to http://casal.upc.es/~ramon25/beatus/beat_78.jpg

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 08:03, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

additions to first 2 paragraphs

hi guys, i forgot to add to my second change of this entry my HarryBarks (talk) I think that's why i got a weird message. The info added is correct. HarryBarks (talk) 16:10, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]