Talk:Colin Robert Chase

Publications vs bibliography

As a reader, I'd expect all of the references used to be gathered in the bibliography... should the two utilized Chase references be double-counted? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:36, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

The ed17, I see what you're saying. That might make more sense in an article where the referenced publications are being used for the information that they contain, whereas here they're really just being used as pointers to the works in question. In the sentence "Chase's other major publication was a scholarly edition of Two Alcuin Letter-Books.[1][9]", for instance, footnote 1 is used as the source of information for the sentence, and 9 to point to the bibliographic information of Two Alcuin Letter-Books. --Usernameunique (talk) 01:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: I left this message after trying to find the first citation for this: "An anonymous reviewer of the book termed it "one of the most important inconclusions in the study of Old English", and declared that "henceforth every discussion of the poem and its period will begin with reference to this volume."" ;-) (Yes, I realize that it was only a click away on desktop, but it's still a strange organizational strategy to me.) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:21, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Colin Robert Chase/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 12:53, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Comments

• "a cautious and necessary incertitude". - usually attribute quotes, who said this?

  Changed to leaving behind was described in A Beowulf Handbook as "a cautious and necessary incertitude" (and similar in the body). We could attribute to the authors individually, although—especially as they don't have their own article—I think the title of the book gets the point across better.

• " associate professor " vs " full Professor" is there a good reason for the difference in formatting of p/Professor?

  Nope. Fixed.

• It might be worth touching on his other notable work in the lead since there are two mentioned in the infobox.
• "at a Jesuit seminary" do we know where? Did he receive any qualifications for this extended period of study?

  The source just says Chase received his B.A. at Harvard in 1956, and for five years attended a Jesuit seminary, studying classics and philosophy.

• Any chance of a fair use image? Since he died 25 years ago, I imagine anything you could find would be justifiable for inclusion.

  I haven't been able to find any image, free or no. Just sent an email to the Centre for Medieval Studies at U of T asking if they have one or know someone who might. It might also be possible to track down a relative—especially given the more famous parent—but a fast search did not turn up anything.

• You link Ph.D on its second use but not M.A. or B.A. at all...

  Linked both, and moved the the Ph.D. link to the first use.

• "At the university he taught a wide ..." and and and.. perhaps split this sentence in two?

  Done: At the university he taught a wide variety of classes and had many doctoral students. He was a faculty member of St. Michael's College and the Centre for Medieval Studies; from 1977 until 1984, he chaired the centre's Medieval Latin Committee.

• " pre-conquest " shouldn't that be pre-Conquest as it was a very specific conquest, not just a general one?

  I could go either way, although the Norman conquest of England article typically refers to "the conquest" without a capital C. That said, the article leads off with The Norman Conquest of England (in Britain, often called the Norman Conquest or the Conquest)

• "to three videotapes made" presumably not exactly three tapes, perhaps three videos which appeared on tape?

  Done.

• "most popularly The Sutton Hoo ship-burial. Well, we discussed sea of blue before, but this is even more odd because you've part-linked sections of the title of a work. This is probably not advisable as it's misleading, I would think anything linked in the name of a work would be to that work itself, not to two separate articles which relate to parts of the name of the work, e.g. I wouldn't right The Taming of the Shrew....

  Yeah, I'd had some doubts about that, but went ahead to get the links in without redundancy. Changed to most popularly The Sutton Hoo ship-burial, about the Anglo-Saxon ship-burial unearthed at Sutton Hoo in Suffolk.

• The cause of death is mentioned in the lead but not the article, if anything it should be the other way around.

  It's in "Personal life": He died of cancer in 1984. Admittedly his death is mentioned twice (the first time being in "Career"), so let me know if you think it needs revising; considering that his death interfered with his work, however, I think there is some relevance in both places.

• "married to his wife Joyce" I'm not sure "his wife" is necessary here.

  Reworded: Chase had a wife, Joyce, and five children:

• "He was a Deacon in the" any reason for the capitalisation?

  It's capitalized in the source, but I think you're right. Changed.

• Reuse ref 5 in the first of the list of publications.

  It's not really being used as a source; it's more there to guide the reader to the publication in the list of his publications.

• " p. 45–46. ISBN 0-684-16760-3." and following five publications, should be pp. for multiple pages.

  Good catch, fixed.

Otherwise a neat article, no major dramas here, I'll place it on hold. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 13:09, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Cool, I'm happy with the updates, happy with your responses above (particularly when you're polite enough to not call me an idiot for not seeing the words in front of my face sometimes!) and happy that the article is of GA quality. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 20:07, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the review and pass, The Rambling Man, much appreciated as always. There's one point above that I haven't gotten to yet, but I will do so shortly (just need to pull some reviews of Two Alcuin Letter-Books). --Usernameunique (talk) 22:03, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, no problem. It would just enhance the article further, and isn't critical. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:24, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Is this correct?

• Chase, Colin (Fall 1983). "This Year's Work in Old English Studies – 1982: Beowulf" (PDF). Old English Newsletter. XVII (1). Binghamton, New York: Center for Medieval and Early Renaissance Studies, State University of New York at Binghamton: 82–92. ISSN 0030-1973.
• Chase, Colin & Taylor, Andrew (Fall 1984). "This Year's Work in Old English Studies – 1983: Beowulf" (PDF). Old English Newsletter. XVIII (1). Binghamton, New York: Center for Medieval and Early Renaissance Studies, State University of New York at Binghamton: 89–97. ISSN 0030-1973.

Same url, both OEN17_1.pdf?--Jarodalien (talk) 16:58, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that, Jarodalien. Fixed (this is the correct URL for the Fall 1984 issue). --Usernameunique (talk) 20:42, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Nonsensical

This is nonsensical: Chase penned Two Alcuin Letter-Books—a scholarly collection of twenty-four letters by the eighth-century scholar Alcuin.

Who wrote the letters? Alcuin or Chase? 82.36.70.45 (talk) 01:40, 5 February 2023 (UTC)