Talk:Coffeeshop (Netherlands)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Alcohol

The first mention of alcohol is "With the exception of advertising and alcohol, these restrictions are monitored and controlled very fiercely." Since there none of the restrictions listed mention alcohol (presumably, it is not included in the class of "hard drugs") this makes no sense. - Jmabel | Talk 22:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Just someone's POV, advertising isnt a drug either, and so I have removed the reference to either, SqueakBox 22:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

No alcohol in any coffeeshops starting April 2007. Now all coffeeshops must also close at 1 am (alcohol establishments were previously allowed to remain open until 3 am).

Sales to foreigners?

Updated the entry to include information about the recent (May 28 2011) law change banning foreigners from patronizing coffee shops. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.48.145.194 (talk) 22:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Can foreigners buy cannabis in these coffee shops in Amsterdam or did that policy last year get implemented? Or was it just hearsay that there is supposed to be a new policy that restricts sales to locals only? Anyone??? 71.111.103.217 05:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

This is definitely not the case in Amsterdam. Here is an article summarizing the origins of this rumor: http://www.cannabislegal.de/international/nl-nol3.htm . I have heard that a city near the German border was going to try this (Maastricht). This rumor seems to have begun in 2003, Belgium laws have changed in 2005 to support carrying of up to 3 grams so although the moment of drug from one country to another is still illegal, it is not strictly enforced. The only thing strictly enforced is age which is checked at the entry to the door by sliding your id into a card reader. Also, you can buy up to 5 grams of Marijuana in the Netherlands....at each coffee shop, Have fun

Well, Münster has a direct train connection to Enschede and I can't help but think that this might have supported the fact that the French Film Paulette is still that successful there. (In Münster, not in Enschede.) I have only been once in a coffee shop (now I am talking about Enschede) and there was a female barkeeper who spoke surprisingly well German and my beautiful long-haired neighbour hadn't expected anything else. When I was there some of the guests also spoke (native) German. Maybe it is different now. A lot of things have changed in the meantime. I for example don't even keep a bong at home anymore for the aforementioned lady. Nordhorner II | TalkI am not a number! I am a Nordhorner. 22:00, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

how old do you have to be to just go inside the cafes?

yeah i am only 17 and i am going to be leaving america for amsterdam in november for the cannabis cup and i have looked every where for restrictions on minors coming into the cafes! i would really like to know! i am going to keep looking but thus far i have only found restictions on the sell of marijuana to minors! ao am i allowed to go in and chill with my friends or not?

WP:NOT#FORUM, but this is a potentially valid point for inclusion in the article.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 19:31, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Officially you have to be 18 to enter an coffeeshop. And you may even be asked to show a valid form of identification (in The Netherlands a passport, drivers licence or EU IDcard). But most of the time you simply walk in and sit down. As in regular bars it's up to the staff to keep an eye open for minors. If they suspect you are underaged they will ask for your id. 145.7.182.14 (talk) 10:30, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Outside the Netherlands

I cannot believe that there is no entry for Jamaica! Ganja, mon! Dick Kimball (talk) 16:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:FOOD Tagging

This article talk page was automatically added with {{WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under Category:Restaurants or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. You can find the related request for tagging here -- TinucherianBot (talk) 08:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Bermuda

Saw one of those travel programs on Discovery (or mayby Travel Channel?) a few years back. And there they visited a fully legal dutch style coffee shop in the city centre of the capital of Bermuda.

Bjarnulf, Oslo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.209.71.174 (talk) 10:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

South Africa

I removed a really un-encyclopedic paragraph because I couldn't find a way to translate it into the right style. 99.157.202.153 (talk) 04:35, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: article not moved Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 17:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

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Cannabis coffee shop → Coffeeshop – According to the article, these establishments are called "coffeeshops," and a look at the disambiguation page Coffee shop shows this form should be unambiguous. Alternatively, I also prefer Coffeeshop (Netherlands) or Coffee shop (Netherlands) to the current title. Take a look at the links to this page on other Wikipedias; only the Polish one mentions marijuana, and as a disambiguator. While there is some use of our current form, both alternatives do much better. Coffeeshop is probably the most precise, but it may be a bit esoteric for most readers. --BDD (talk) 20:46, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose. Clearly, coffeeshop should continue to redirect to the disambiguation page coffee shop - the mere lack of a space is not enough to separate the pages. I have no opinion on the suitability of the current title of this page, but coffeeshop is not the right place to move it to. Interplanet Janet (talk) 21:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose for the same reason as Janet above, but Coffeeshop (Netherlands) might be an improvement. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:32, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose. The average reader of wikipedia who isn't a resident of the Netherlands will see the term Coffeeshop and immediately equate it with a premises that serves coffee. It's not a very intuitive term. I wouldn't even really support the proposed move to Coffeeshop (Netherlands), to be honest. A hatnote at the top of Coffeeshop and a redirect at Coffeeshop (Netherlands) would provide a far more navigable and intuitive solution without requiring article moves. Kaini (talk) 00:39, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose. For first time hearing the word "coffeshop", what comes to my mind is a shop that sells coffee, or etc. about coffees.Angelica (talk to me?) 15:32, 08 July 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose Reliable sources overwhelmingly and almost exclusively use "coffeshop" to refer to a place that sells and/or brews coffee. Just do a Google book or scholar search. First Light (talk) 21:52, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose the headlined proposal. Proposed change would confuse more than it would enlighten; to most people coffeeshop is just an alternative spelling of coffee shop. No strong feelings for the secondary proposals of Coffeeshop (Netherlands) or Coffee shop (Netherlands). -- chris_j_wood (talk) 13:14, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose. Coffee shop and coffeeshop are interchangeable in English. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Coffee shop vs coffeeshop?

This article appears to use both in no particular way. Is one right and one wrong? Or are the terms interchangeable? Nikthestoned 15:40, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Smoking bans vs. cannabis in Canada

One aspect of the discussion of Canada that's missing is how cannabis coffee shops in Vancouver and Toronto are allowed to let people smoke pot, yet smoking in public places including the interior of bars and restaurants is supposedly banned. Does this indicate a loophole in the law that only tobacco is banned, or is it an indication of authorities turning a blind eye to the bylaw? By comparison, a shisha bar in Calgary was forced to close last year because it violated anti-smoking bylaws which apparently prohibit smoking of any substance (in this case non-narcotic material). Expanding this discussion may become germane depending on what happens now in Washington and Colorado where if the decision is made to allow coffeeshops to open (or equivalents thereof) this could run headlong into anti-smoking bylaws. 70.72.211.35 (talk) 15:19, 7 November 2012 (UTC)