Talk:Clavinet
Clavinet has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: January 20, 2022. (Reviewed version). |
This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||
|
Untitled (2005)
[edit]"A clavinet is a keyboard instrument, manufactured by the Hohner company." Do there exist any other companies manufacturing this instument?144.139.85.146.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.139.85.146 (talk) 11:44, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
In a word- no.--feline1 11:49, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Why not?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.139.87.36 (talk) 11:44, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- No market. No company makes clavinets. If you want a clavinet, you'll have to find a used clavinet. - Nunh-huh 12:38, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Well other companies can't just go manufacturing Hohner's patent designs without a license. Virtually ever electronic keyboard ever made has a "clavinet" preset on it though LOL --feline1 15:45, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
It should be mentioned in the article itself that manufacture has been discontinued. Preferably by someone who could say when and possibly why.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.29.234 (talk) 09:47, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Untitled (2007)
[edit]Should cost be mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.203.251 (talk) 04:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Untitled (2011)
[edit]The patent law was designed to promote progress, and not regress. The Clavinet patent has clearly been abandoned, and it therefore belongs to noone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.2.241 (talk) 00:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
CLAVINET DP3
[edit]And what about this model ? Nothing in the article...
I find : 'The Clavinet DP1 & DP3 were digital pianos (Technics design) that were manufactured under licence by Hohner...'
--AXRL (talk) 19:50, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Notable songs section
[edit]What is notable about these songs? (Are they notable songs? Is the clavinet notable in them? Other?) RJFJR (talk) 03:27, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- I've nuked this, replaced it with reliably-sourced prose, and left a not-very-subtle hint in a comment at the top of the section. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:40, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- Wow, that was a lot of edits there in the history. You removed one that I had added. I added it back. Notable song, notable musicians, and the clavinet is the dominant instrument. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- I've been meaning to clean up the article for some time, but had an attack of the WP:SQUIRRELs and did all of it in a day. I think the important point was to transform the section from an indiscriminate list to something that flowed better with prose. As for the Goodies, must have missed that, I thought I'd got all the ones that had a citation to a source, but must have missed that one. I'd like to see if we can name-check Herbie Hancock a bit more and flesh out the Clavinet's use in jazz fusion, but I don't have great source material to hand that does anything more than name-check albums and songs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:35, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for all that work. I agree, it's way better as prose than a list. I wanted the Goodies entry in there because of Oddie's reference to Stevie Wonder, so it seemed to fit well after the paragraph about Stevie Wonder. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:41, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- I've been meaning to clean up the article for some time, but had an attack of the WP:SQUIRRELs and did all of it in a day. I think the important point was to transform the section from an indiscriminate list to something that flowed better with prose. As for the Goodies, must have missed that, I thought I'd got all the ones that had a citation to a source, but must have missed that one. I'd like to see if we can name-check Herbie Hancock a bit more and flesh out the Clavinet's use in jazz fusion, but I don't have great source material to hand that does anything more than name-check albums and songs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:35, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Wow, that was a lot of edits there in the history. You removed one that I had added. I added it back. Notable song, notable musicians, and the clavinet is the dominant instrument. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
GA Review
[edit]GA toolbox |
---|
Reviewing |
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Clavinet/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 17:00, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
I'll take this one. It's in a good state so I shan't have many comments to make. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:00, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- The diagram is obviously useful here. Unfortunately it has very tiny text, in German, and it's a fuzzy raster version. Better would be an .SVG with English labels... I might lend a hand if I'm feeling strong. Meanwhile it might be worth scaling it up a bit so the labels can be read.
- I'll see what I can do; I've had this issue crop up in other GA reviews (eg: Woolwich Ferry) so it's worth doing, provided I can find a decent source. As the image is a JPG, it can't easily be edited like a SVG, although I suspect the original is probably a vector file given the appearance of it. The original uploader, Berndt Meyer has never edited the English Wikipedia, only the German one and Commons. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Aha, I've found the SVG and put that in with annotated text. Much better :-) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'll see what I can do; I've had this issue crop up in other GA reviews (eg: Woolwich Ferry) so it's worth doing, provided I can find a decent source. As the image is a JPG, it can't easily be edited like a SVG, although I suspect the original is probably a vector file given the appearance of it. The original uploader, Berndt Meyer has never edited the English Wikipedia, only the German one and Commons. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Might be worth wikilinking the publishers, e.g. Backbeat Books, Elsevier, Chartwell Books.
- Sure, don't see why not Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- 'Notable users': Stevie Wonder deserves a subsection of his own here (the first two paragraphs).
- Okay. Wasn't sure about this, but given that the Clavinet is fairly unique in having one prominent user far and above all the others, it makes sense. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- I guess the other 'Notable users' need a balancing subsection, something like 'Later users'.
- I've gone with "others". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- I know the 'Effects' section is only short, but it feels as if 'Castle Bar' should have a subsection of its own; is there an image we might use of the device to fill out the section a bit? ... In which case we need a subsection for 'Stomp box' or something to that effect; here there are plenty of available images. If you don't feel like subsections then we could have a small image gallery immediately under the section's text.
- I'll have a look and see what else I can find in terms of sources for the Castle Bar mod - although it's been around for years, it's really only Lachy Doley who I know as a prominent user of it. As for images, Docrobbie (talk · contribs) (aka, David Robertson, author of Classic Keys) may have some he can upload. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- I've added a bit more about the Castle Bar mod. As for images, there are loads of pictures of Lachy Doley live and it's his main instrument, but there don't appear to be any free ones, which is a bit strange as his notability is entirely in the Wikipedia era. SilkTork is quite good at digging out appropriate licenced images from Flickr and elsewhere so they can be put on Commons, so I wonder if he's got any comments. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:59, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Is this any good to you: [1] The site is Creative Commons: [2]. SilkTork (talk) 10:56, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Err ..... that's an M-Audio Keystation MIDI controller, not a Clavinet. I was thinking of something like this (that image is non-free). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:03, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, another look turns up free images of him playing keyboards that I've double checked and are not clavinets, or creative commons images of him with a clavinet but which don't allow commercial use. SilkTork (talk) 11:34, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Well, we could use one of him cropped to exclude the instrument ;-} or ask around for a photo, but in any case the article is now a GA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:28, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks - it would be a nice to have in this article, but as you say, it doesn't really fail the GA criteria which says "The presence of media is not, in itself, a requirement.". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:10, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Well, we could use one of him cropped to exclude the instrument ;-} or ask around for a photo, but in any case the article is now a GA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:28, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, another look turns up free images of him playing keyboards that I've double checked and are not clavinets, or creative commons images of him with a clavinet but which don't allow commercial use. SilkTork (talk) 11:34, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Err ..... that's an M-Audio Keystation MIDI controller, not a Clavinet. I was thinking of something like this (that image is non-free). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:03, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Is this any good to you: [1] The site is Creative Commons: [2]. SilkTork (talk) 10:56, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- I've added a bit more about the Castle Bar mod. As for images, there are loads of pictures of Lachy Doley live and it's his main instrument, but there don't appear to be any free ones, which is a bit strange as his notability is entirely in the Wikipedia era. SilkTork is quite good at digging out appropriate licenced images from Flickr and elsewhere so they can be put on Commons, so I wonder if he's got any comments. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:59, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'll have a look and see what else I can find in terms of sources for the Castle Bar mod - although it's been around for years, it's really only Lachy Doley who I know as a prominent user of it. As for images, Docrobbie (talk · contribs) (aka, David Robertson, author of Classic Keys) may have some he can upload. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- That's great.
- "to bend the pitch" may not be obvious to readers. Perhaps wikilink and gloss pitch bend?
Super, very nearly there now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:24, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:10, 20 January 2022 (UTC)