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What about the controversy surrounded with stem cell research and Michael J. Fox? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.60.10.204 (talk) 22:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Can some one explain the last line of the article: "She had long been rumored to be considering a run against Talent, especially in light of Governor Matt Blunt's sagging poll numbers." I don't understand what this is attempting to say. Wouldn't Blunt's sagging numbers have led toward the opposite conclusion (another run against him)? Kenj0418 05:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
- I think the idea is to suggest that Blunt's low poll number suggest Republicans are vulnerable in Missouri. I agree that it is poorly phrased, and probably not relevant to the article. TMS63112 16:32, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
- Its removed now Kenj0418 00:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
This article lacks any mention of the Federal investigation into alleged drug use by Claire McCaskill when she was Chief Prosecutor in Jackson County, Missouri. I would write up something but I don't have all the facts yet. Until then, I believe this article is biased. Abacab 19:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know how the failure to inlcude an unsubstantiated rumor can make the article biased or contrary to Wikipedia's NPOV policy. I think presenting such an accusation without a solid source, even on this talk page, is contrary to Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons. TMS63112 19:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's not unsubstantiated. There were many news reports on it in Missouri (Which can be found on YouTube) along with documents from the Federal Prosecutor regarding their investigation of Ms. McCaskill. As I said, I would add the section when I got the chance because it is not bogus to mention an INVESTIGATION into ALLEGED drug use. People running for Federal office who've been investigated by the Feds should have it mentioned in their bio.Abacab 19:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- It would not be bogus if you could cite a source to substantiate that there was an investigation. You say this was widely covered, but I have followed McCaskill's careeer pretty closely since she first ran for statewide office in 1998. I have no recollection of this. A quick search for "McCaskill" on YouTube turned up nothing. TMS63112 19:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- Here: Part 1 and here: Part 2 Abacab 19:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- I have removed the NPOV tag from the article. As noted by User:TMS63112, the failure of Wikipedia to report on criminal allegations does not violate the NPOV policy. If User:Abacab insists on tagging the article, I would suggest that he tag the article for factual accuracy. --TommyBoy 23:42, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- Fair Enough Abacab 23:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- I have added the info relating to the federal drug investigation to the article, citing the sources provided in this discussion. --TommyBoy 07:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- I have contacted User:ArmedCitizen, and asked him to cite a source which explicitly states that McCaskill was responsible for changing the ballot language. --TommyBoy 05:45, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Ladies & Gentlemen; There wasn't any legal recourse after-the-fact in Missouri.
There are facts verifiable by dates and the position of Claire McCaskill in that timeline. Co-conspirators included Governor Mel Caranhan, his daughter Robin Carnahan, Handgun Control Inc., and most prominently, the Clinton/Gore Administration.
Further information is available at the following:
http://www.moccw.org/jamison.html http://www.moccw.org/language.html http://www.moccw.org/nrapropb.html http://www.moccw.org/pressreleases.html http://www.moccw.org/news.html
Incidentally, Perhaps one of the strangest 'events' was the taped phone message from Hillary Clinton that was used in the Urban areas the weekend prior to Proposition B referendum voting day.
ArmedCitizen 13:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- Information relating to McCaskill's divorce from David Exposito has been removed the article without explaination.. I believe this information is relevant and should be re-added. I would have reverted the deletion if I knew how to do it without impacting User:ArmedCitizen's unrelated edits. --TommyBoy 01:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
restored twice
McCaskill is an avid supporter of Handgun Control Inc,. and in the position of State Auditor; helped to change the approved ballot language [a] for Proposition B which lead to the 1999 defeat of a conceal carry law in the State of Missouri.
That was removed without reading the above source information.
Now it has been restored.
ArmedCitizen 07:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Late Former Husband's Name
For the second time since September 10, User:24.107.159.34 has changed the name of Claire McCaskill's late former husband from David Exposito to David Esposito despite the fact that the external link reporting his death states his name was David Exposito. I have reverted the changes again, and posted a note on his Talk page urging him to cite a source for his edits. --TommyBoy 14:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I have once again reverted the unsourced changing of "David Exposito" to "David Esposito" by an anonymous user. As stated in my previous comments on this issue, if editors have a verifiable source which states that the correct spelling of her first husband's name is fact "Esposito", please quote that source which verifies the reason for the change, or it will be reverted back to Exposito, which according to the source used in this article is the correct spelling. --TommyBoy (talk) 00:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I have just corrected another anonymous user's edit changing the spelling of her late former husband's name from "Esposito" to "Exposito". As I have said before, if a user can provide a source for the change, that is fine, but until then, the source used in this article states that his name in spelled "Exposito", and that is how it should be spelled unless another source is provided contradicteing that information. --TommyBoy (talk) 22:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted an anonymous user's unsourced edit changing the spelling of her late former husband's name for the third time in the last coup;e of weeks. --TommyBoy (talk) 01:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
It does appear, from the Time article linked in a recent edit, that her children have the surname Esposito: The Year of the Youth Vote. Here's a copy of an article from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that says they changed the spelling: McCaskill's ex-husband found murdered. So her ex-husband's surname was spelled Exposito, and her children's surnames are spelled Esposito. I am going to edit the page to reflect this information and add the Post-Dispatch as a source for it. Ariadne55 (talk) 01:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nevermind, someone already fixed it :-) Ariadne55 (talk) 01:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Ariadne55--I've been trying to correct this error, but someone keeps changing it back, and now I have a level three warning. Will someone change this error? And those changing children back to Exposito--STOP! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.7.227 (talk) 02:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'll fix it if someone changes it back. If so, I'll add the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and Time cites right next to the eldest one's name. With some articles, a cite right next to the name helps stop edit wars. However, I wonder if removing the children's surname entirely might help? The step-children's names aren't listed at all, perhaps we could just list her biological children by first name? I hate to remove info from an article, especially when there are two good cites to verify it, but it's an idea. Ariadne55 (talk) 03:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Here's an article in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that is actually still availabe on the site and refers to her daughter as Maddie Esposito, St. Joseph Academy withdraws invite for McCaskill to speak at daughter's graduation. I do hope we can reach consensus on this. I'll keep looking for articles that support either viewpoint. Ariadne55 (talk) 03:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think the best way to hopefully resolve this matter for once and for all would be to add language to the article explaining that although her former husband's name is "Exposito", her children use the surname "Esposito", with a reliable source cited to that effect. --TommyBoy (talk) 04:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be ideal. The beginning of the paragraph could be streamlined to read: McCaskill was married to David Exposito, with whom she had three children, Austin, Maddie and Lily. Her children from that marriage have changed the spelling of their surname from Exposito to Esposito [cite]. Finding a source everyone can agree on is a bit of a problem though. The Common Ground reprint of the St. Louis article seems to be the only article that explicitly states that they changed their name. The paper's own site has the article (in the archive for 2005, use his first and last names as search terms), but anything other than the first paragraph costs money. I'm at a dead end with the search engines in terms of finding another article that has the terms McCaskill, Exposito, and Esposito all in one article. Ariadne55 (talk) 05:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think the best way to hopefully resolve this matter for once and for all would be to add language to the article explaining that although her former husband's name is "Exposito", her children use the surname "Esposito", with a reliable source cited to that effect. --TommyBoy (talk) 04:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Here's an article in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that is actually still availabe on the site and refers to her daughter as Maddie Esposito, St. Joseph Academy withdraws invite for McCaskill to speak at daughter's graduation. I do hope we can reach consensus on this. I'll keep looking for articles that support either viewpoint. Ariadne55 (talk) 03:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Federal Drug Investigation
I have reverted an anonymous user's deletion of information relating to the federal drug investigation of Claire McCaskill. That information had been sourced by two links from YouTube, which have since been removed for lack of licensing information. I have contacted User:Abacab, who originally posted the YouTube links as sources, and asked if he is aware of any other sources which would comply with Wikipedia policy. --TommyBoy 17:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I am not aware of any other sources for said video clips. I don't know what we should do vis-a-vis the article sans citation regarding the drug investigation. Perhaps there are published articles that I will have to google for.Abacab 11:20, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Links
I want to propose what I believe is an informative external link for this page: McCaskill's page at whereIstand.com. I'm a topic editor at wIs, just so that's out there, but the site is maybe best described here as a more dynamic and collaborative version of ontheissues.org, which appears frequently in politicians' articles here. Users post and vote on evidence of public figures' positions on a wide variety of issues, as you'll see from the link. Should it be included? --EsperantoStand 01:25, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
"victory ... was larger than the other two"
In the notes section, the article says Sen. McCaskill's Senatorial victory was "larger than the other two." What does is mean to have a "large" victory? Does it mean Sen. McCaskill's margin of victory was greater than that of the other candidates? Does it mean media coverage of her victory was greater? Does it mean her victory had a greater impact on the national political landscape?
1st Husband's murder
Does anyone know how her 1st husbond was murdered? If you know, respond on my talk. Politics rule 12:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Monsanto Campaign Contributions
from the article:
- In 2008 McCaskill and Republican U.S. Representative Roy Blunt accepted more campaign donations from Monsanto, a St. Louis-based manufacturer of genetically modified products, than any other members of Congress.[18] Monsanto has contributed more money to Missouri's congressional delegation than to any other state's.
Well duh... they are headquartered in Missouri -- doesn't it make sense that would contribute more money to Missouri candidates? Why is this relevant enough to have a whole section on it? Do the articles for Florida senators mention that they get lots of money from Disney and Orange growers? 76.233.78.160 (talk) 23:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- I just checked - and no there is no such mention on the Florida senators (One page mentions some reporting violations - which is relevant). I'm removing the section quoted above. Unless someone can't explain how its notable enough to be mentioned in her (and Blunt's) article, it seems like WP:OR (not to mention obvious that a company contributes to pol's from their state). 76.233.78.160 (talk) 23:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Removing it seems appropriate to me. Were it the subject of a widely reported controversy, then it would warrant inclusion. Qqqqqq (talk) 04:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Where does one submit emil spam sent by U.S. representatives for a state one has never lived in? Does that spam violate any federal law or are political campaigns protected? I've gotten a bunch from this senator, that's the only reason I know she exists in fact, given that I've never been to her state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.176.184.35 (talk) 18:23, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
"Taxpayer-funded abortions"
There is a rather serious error that I have amended. Tax payer money is currently not spent funding abortions, that is in fact illegal. Up to this date no tax moneys have been spent on abortions. One of many references for this: http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0111/Abortion_on_deck_in_health_care_debate.html
The sentence I am referring to read: She was critical of the Stupak-Pitts Amendment, which would have placed limits on taxpayer-funded abortions in the context of the November 2009 Affordable Health Care for America Act.[21]
The confusion is that the Title X currently subsidizes overhead costs of Planned Parenthood. However, this a distinct and important difference. The new entry reads: She was critical of the Stupak-Pitts Amendment, which would have placed limits on private funding of abortions in the context of the November 2009 Affordable Health Care for America Act.[21]
Her actual quote, as found on the linked source, is as follows:
"[I] Don't think we should change current law which is no public $ for abortions, but amndmt goes too far limitng [sic] private funds too," her tweet read. Source
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Claire_McCaskill&action=edit§ion=new# — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.94.65.8 (talk) 05:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
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I have included a line on the career of Claire McCaskill. And a source location. As someone that worked on the campaign this is also first hand information.
"As an avid supporter of Gun Control Inc,. and in the position of State Auditor; changed the approved ballot language for Prop B which lead to the 1999 defeat of conceal carry for law-abiding citizens in the State of Missouri." These are facts verifiable by dates and the position of Claire McCaskill in that timeline. Co-conspirators included Governor Mel Caranhan, his daughter Robin Carnahan, Handgun Control Inc., and most prominently, the Clinton/Gore Administration. More information is available at the websites listed below: http://www.moccw.org/jamison.html http://www.moccw.org/language.html http://www.moccw.org/nrapropb.html http://www.moccw.org/pressreleases.html http://www.moccw.org/news.html ArmedCitizen 01:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC) |
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Early life, etc.
Why do we need to know that she was Pep club president or homecoming queen? This sentence doesn't seem relevant to the page, especially in comparison to Roy Blunt. Roy Blunt has about 4 sentences describing his personal life and they are all objective statements. MyFactsMatter2017 (talk) 18:32, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Is McCaskill Wealthy? If so, what is the source of her income?
There are currently memes online purporting to show McCaskill's income as a Government Employee, totally approximately one million dollars, then claiming her actual net worth is in the 100 million dollar range, the point being to raise the question "How does a Government Employee get to be this wealthy.", along the same lines as what's also being said about Nancy Pelosi. I'd be interested in knowing if first question is "Yes", and if so, what the source of her income is/was. I assume other Readers would also like to know this.2605:6000:6947:AB00:49D2:79EC:1362:5C96 (talk) 01:51, 22 October 2018 (UTC)