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"Too spammy"

Edwardx can you please elaborate on this? This is a ridiculously lazy rationale for a reversion of cited content coming from such a prolific editor as yourself. What exactly was wrong? Was it my writing? The source itself? How can I improve the content so you don't revert it? Otherwise we are misleading readers into believing that all ciders are sweet. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 14:32, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point, GhostOfDanGurney. I remove spam and spam-like contributions most days, and can sometimes be over-zealous. As to your addition, "However, ciders have varying sugar content, and "dry" ciders (which allow the yeast to consume most of the sugar) are highly-regarded." - the "highly-regarded" was what triggered me, and that should not be included. And the very next section of the article covers the sweet-dry point. Do bear in mind that the US "hard" cider market is tiny compared to the UK. On reflection, perhaps something about sweet-dry would be helpful in the lead, but maybe a UK source would be better? Edwardx (talk) 15:08, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Edwardx: I found nothing wrong with "highly regarded" or any similar phrase that indicates dry cider is considered superior to sweet cider.

However, I would have removed it for violating WP:LEAD. The lead section of an article should only provide a brief overview of the article, not introduce new material that isn't already covered in the body text. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:12, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Questions and comments

1. I lived in Piedmont for 21 years and I never saw a cider anywhere in the region. What are the popular brands and locations where the ciders are sold?

2. What is a "continental cider". Is it a cider that comes frrom main Europe?

3. The geograohy and origins section introduces the "first group" of ciders. No "second group" of ciders is mentioned.

4. The section on Italy mentions "vin ëd pom"/"pomada" and, as is, it seems to imply that is the name of ciders in both Trentino and Piedmont. Vin ëd pom/pomada only apply to Piedmont (Piedmontese language words). Still, I have never seen it sold in Piedmont in 21 years I lived there.

5. The section on Poland says "The category is just gaining popularity among consumers". Does it mean ciders are becoming gradually more popular in Poland?

6. Under the Americas section the text for U.S.A. and Canada should go under the respective sections.

7. The section on Canada says "must contain no less than 2.5 and no more than 13.0 percent alcohol by volume" which is repetitive with "does not contain more than 13% absolute alcohol by volume (ABV) or less than 2.5% ABV" just above it.

8. "The nuanced taste and rich legacy of cider from the British era helps the prospects of the drink in the bored scenario of pale lagers."

The above is a flat-out biased opinion.

ICE77 (talk) 07:33, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]