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"Super Turnt Up" ("Turned Up")

People continue to change the title of the song "Super Turnt Up" to "Turned Up" and that is WRONG. CIARA, HERSELF, has said the song is called "Super Turnt Up." I change it and people are changing it back to the WRONG title. On Twitter, she wrote: "Hey CSQUAD!! I know ill always said TTU, let's change that to STU!! SUPER TURNT UP! That's the name of 1 of my songs on my LP. STU!! XO!" https://twitter.com/ciara/status/210811309019774976 This is proof that "Super Turnt Up" is the correct name and it needs to be changed ASAP.

Getting reported for putting correct information on the site is ridiculous, by the way.

--MPQzy (talk) 05:39, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing

Ciara has been victim to much media speculation. Over zealous fans need to calm down and stop referencing random google searchs, and blogs such as The Lava Lizard, That Grape Juice and Toyazworld as these are not classified as reliable sources. Wikipedia can only report on what is fact - not what is assumed or presumed to be true. If you want to create a page on speculation please create a blog. Any unverfied or dubious information will just be removed. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 16:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The songs are CONFIRMED. Rap Up knows the name of the songs because of people on Twitter. Same for the other blogs. Look it up on Twitter, they're all confirmed songs. --MPQzy (talk) 22:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sighs... has no one ever learnt anything from Ciara releases? While the songs might exist.. they are not allowed to be written about until a WP:reliable source confirms that the songs exist or that they were heard. Blogs run by people in their spare time do not prove the exist of songs enough for them to be written on wikipedia. Believe it or not, wikipedia is supposed to be factual. One only has to look at Fantasy Ride to remember how badly things were exagerated thanks to twitter and various blogs. so i'm sorry (i am a big ciara fan) but until a reliable source such as rap-up produces an article on the album listing party it simply isn't reliable to talk about them. Look at the rule as linked above. p.s. artists usually record somewhere between 20 and 100 songs for an album. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 23:35, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am probably one of the BIGGEST Ciara fans out there. "Super Turnt Up" features Nicki Minaj and this is fact. Please leave it. --MPQzy (talk) 01:05, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter who's a bigger fan (i don't really care tbh) ... Wikipedia is supposed to be factual and unfortunately you keep reverting to a non-factual version of the article. Also where's the source for this? — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 21:56, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added sources. The article is a good as it can be for now. --MPQzy (talk) 13:56, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article still contains information which is unverfied. My version of the article sans the update on "Super Turnt Up" was more accurate. Large blocks of text copied are not a good idea per WP:COPYPASTE. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 16:26, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That section has no copy and paste, the only part that contains that is the quote which is in quotations. The article is fine. --MPQzy (talk) 16:40, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:COPYPASTE and WP:QUOTE, copy a large portion of text and putting it in quotation marks is discourage. Whereas me re-write paraphrased the text and added more context thus making it more encyclopedic. We should be working together yet your commanding ownersip of the article involves reverting anyone else's edits but your own even when they improve the article. this against wikipedia rules. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 16:49, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As I have just said to you on my talk page, this is not true. I, like you, am trying to make this page as good as possible. If the quoted part is an issue of Wikipedia:COPYPASTE, we could change that, but I don't think the rest of your edits/additions were needed as they do nothing for the article. --MPQzy (talk) 17:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Then take it from my experience when i WP:Copyedit I genuinely know what I am doing have taken numerous articles to WP:Good article status which recongises the strength of editing and professionalism of articles written. My edit in general aimed to add context as to wht Ciara asked to be released from her label, the commericial context as to why the loss of her commercial success comes directly from her diminishing label support. The edits i made were in the hope of trying to get the article to good article status in the future which is an achievement for all editors involved. I admit I sometimes fall short on spelling and grammar but these are easily correctable. You shouldn't revert someone else's edit just because "you don't think its necessary". The edits significantly improved the prose and made the article more encyclopedia worthy as apposed to some fansite or blog. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 17:14, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the section to the following. I believe this includes what you think is needed and what I think is needed.

Background and development

Following a plague of legal issues and unauthorized leaking of songs during the era of Ciara's third album, Fantasy Ride, Ciara recorded much of her fourth album, Basic Instinct, with strict privacy.^[1] The album, released in late 2010, was met with a mixed reception from music critics and commercial disappointment. In early February 2011, following the single cancellation of "Turn It Up," rumors that Ciara had been dropped by her record label began to circulate around the internet. However, on February 14, 2011, Ciara addressed the claim in a letter to fans through Facebook, stating that she had requested an end to her contract with Jive Records, citing a lack of funding and label support as reasons. She also revealed that she had paid for the single release and music video for "Gimmie Dat," only to be told that her label told radio stations not to play it.^[2] In May 2011, Ciara was removed from the Jive Records website roster, signifying that she had gotten out of her contract.^[3] On July 12, 2011, it was rumored that Ciara would be reuniting with L.A. Reid once he became the new chairman and CEO at Epic Records.^[4] Reid had previously signed Ciara to LaFace Records at the start of her career, and was a factor in the commercial success of her debut album, Goodies. Billboard magazine went on to confirm her move to Epic in September 2011.^[5] --MPQzy (talk) 17:56, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I like this version, as since the album isn't finished yet, there will be more to add later, is there a way to condense the recoding section (we don't need every quote). --TheCountdown (talk) 22:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ anon. (2010-02-04). "Ciara keeping new album under wraps". Rap Up. Retrieved 2010-04-13.
^ "Ciara Prays for Label to Release Her". Rap-Up. Devin Lazerine. February 14, 2011. Retrieved February 14, 2011.
^ "Artists | Jive Label Group". Jiverecords.com. 1999-02-22. Retrieved 2011-07-16.
^ "Ciara Moving to L.A. Reid's Epic Label Group After Restructure, Report". Singersroom. 2011-07-12. Retrieved 2012-03-07. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |work= (help)
^ "Outkast, Ciara Headed for L.A. Reid's Epic Records, Sources Say". Billboard.biz. 2011-09-15. Retrieved 2011-11-24.

Edit request on 10 June 2013

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On the UK and German edition of the album, Nicki Minaj is featured on Livin It Up, and it also features the bonus track "Body Party (Remix)" featuring Future and B.o.B. http://www.amazon.de/Ciara/dp/B00CDBOQ9K/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1370827888&sr=8-4&keywords=ciara http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ciara/dp/B00CDBOQ9K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1370828135&sr=8-6&keywords=ciara Chartwatch (talk) 01:36, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thank you! — Statυs (talk, contribs) 01:42, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Target and Japan bonus tracks

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Can someone add the Target and Japan bonus tracks, they are: Body Party (remix), Boy Outta Here featuring Rick Ross, and One Night With You....Source. Source 2.

Done these have been added with credits. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 19:15, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 23 June 2013

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On Ciara (Album) The Target Bonus Track "Boy Outta Here" The Producer(s) credit reads The Underdogs, when it should read The Underdogs and King X. This is King X's first major record and it would be great to have him properly listed.

Best Regards 71.55.99.76 (talk) 07:44, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not done no reference or source provided. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 21:16, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 30 June 2013

The album will be released in Japan on 24 July 2013. Shouldn't this be added to the release history? 177.43.6.143 (talk) 17:57, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pull Over

There's a redirect from Pull Over (Ciara song) to this album but unless it's an alternative name for the track "DUI" (which googling suggests) I can't see why. I've just been tidying up the dab page at Pullover: I haven't added a link to this album because the words "Pull Over" aren't included in the article. Someone might like to fix this, and add a link to the song to that dab page. Thanks. PamD 13:57, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[1] . (2010-02-04). "Ciara keeping new album under wraps". Rap Up. Retrieved 2010-04-13.

[Lack_of_Support-2] "Ciara Prays for Label to Release Her". Rap-Up. Devin Lazerine. February 14, 2011. Retrieved February 14, 2011.

[3] "Artists | Jive Label Group". Jiverecords.com. 1999-02-22. Retrieved 2011-07-16.

[4] "Ciara Moving to L.A. Reid's Epic Label Group After Restructure, Report". Singersroom. 2011-07-12. Retrieved 2012-03-07. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |work= (help)

[5] "Outkast, Ciara Headed for L.A. Reid's Epic Records, Sources Say". Billboard.biz. 2011-09-15. Retrieved 2011-11-24.

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