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A fact from Chris Tanasale appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 June 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as the mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to prevent the alienation of local Christians?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 22:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that in a period of religious tensions, military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to prevent alienating local Christians? Source: [1]: "In the end, the governor chose not to further alienate the Christian community and selected a Christian candidate, Chris Tanasale".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Elizabeth Yeampierre
- Comment: -

Created by Juxlos (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 225 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Juxlos (talk) 05:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

New enough, long enough, well written, hook is verified and interesting, no plagiarism, QPQ done. I'm not entirely sure that the image is correctly licensed, but in any case it is not used with the hook. Dahn (talk) 09:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Juxlos, Dahn, and AirshipJungleman29: sorry for last minute pull, I checked this set earlier today but only just had access to a computer to edit... anyway, the issue is there seems to be a chronological issue with this hook, based on what's in the article. The hook begins with "that during a period of religious tensions...", with a link to Maluku sectarian conflict, which is described as being from 1999 to 2002, but then it says he was "selected as the mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to placate local Christians", something which took place in 1996. So it can't have been during the Maluku conflict. The article goes on to say that this was during his tenure. If there was already tension in 1996, then we probably need to spell that out in the article to use it in the hook and also not link to a specific conflict that took place later. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 21:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Amakuru: I suppose that will count as OR in the hook. Maybe we can go with a half-hook instead?

ALT1: ... that military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to placate local Christians?

Juxlos (talk) 01:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dahn: As the original approver, can you confirm if the above hook is approved, and if this article is good to go? @Amakuru: Is the above hook acceptable to you? Z1720 (talk) 00:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Approving new hook, and sorry for not catching that. Dahn (talk) 03:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: my only query would be whether placate is the best word here... The article text reads "to prevent alienating Christians in the city" which sounds quite benevolent and inclusive, whereas placate means "make (someone) less angry or hostile". Were the Christians angry and hostile before Tanasale's selection? — Amakuru (talk) 07:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Juxlos: Can you address the above? Z1720 (talk) 17:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Amakuru: @Z1720: Apologies for the delay - long trip. Maybe best to reword it to exactly match the article and source (i.e. "prevent alienating")? Juxlos (talk) 16:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Juxlos and Dahn: no worries, hope your trip went well. How's this? I've modified your proposal slightly to prevent the alienation of... rather than prevent alienating, it sounds slightly more grammatical. Other than that, this seems fine to me, Dahn can feedback if they approve this version.

ALT1a: ... that military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to prevent the alienation of local Christians? — Amakuru (talk) 16:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No qualms with a slight word reordering. Juxlos (talk) 16:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No objection to the reword/ALT1a. Dahn (talk) 16:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]