Talk:Chris Lewis (Usenet)

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A fact from Chris Lewis (Usenet) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 February 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 1998, Chris Lewis and other volunteer despammers on Usenet went on a labor strike?

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 00:53, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... ~~that... in 1998, Chris Lewis and forty other anti-spam volunteers started an unsuccessful boycott with the goal of crashing computer servers with unfiltered spam?~~ Source: Wired
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Expanded fivefold

Created by Vortex3427 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:

QPQ:
Overall: Meets eligibility criteria. Recently expanded to 5x by the nominator. Article is well sourced. WP:AGF on offline sources. Article is well sourced and is neutral in tone. Earwig does not show any issues. Hook is interesting. I was not able to see the reference to forty other volunteers at the Wired link. Requesting the nominator Vortex3427 to take a look and point that to me in case I missed it. The hook itself is interesting. Can the nominator take one pass at rewording the hook if they can? Reading the source it appeared that the boycott was primarily them stopping their actions of spam filtering pressuring the ISPs and usenet admins to install their own spam filtering tools. The hook seems to be missing that nuance. Happy to hear the nominator's views. QPQ pending. passing this back to the nominator. Ktin (talk) 16:22, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: This is the nominator's second nomination so a QPQ is not required. Sending another ping to Vortex3427 in case they missed the above review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:42, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The part about there being forty volunteers is mentioned in this article. Will try to reword this hook shortly—in retrospect, the "crashing computer servers with unfiltered spam" was more of a predicted side effect then a goal.— VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 01:02, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Probably needs another reviewer. BorgQueen (talk) 17:15, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

With due respect, I do not see why a new reviewer is needed. I have been waiting for a revised hook from @Vortex3427:. I noticed the QPQ comment from Narutolovehinata earlier. Ktin (talk) 16:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ok sorry. I thought you had lost interest lol. BorgQueen (talk) 00:29, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Happy editing. Ktin (talk) 04:21, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm striking the proposed hook as it is inaccurate and confusing. The goal was not to crash servers, the goal was to get ISPs to filter spam instead of relying on volunteers to do the work. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:56, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
... ALT1... that in 1998, Chris Lewis and forty other anti-spam volunteers started an unsuccessful boycott with the goal of convincing internet service providers to filter spam? Source: Wired

This is accurate. But, does this one read too verbose? Any chance at precis-ing a bit? Ktin (talk) 16:54, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: ... ALT1a... that in 1998, Chris Lewis led an unsuccessful boycott with the goal of convincing internet service providers to filter spam?

Like this? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: -- does not read right. Unsuccessful boycott of "what"? Ktin (talk) 17:12, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: How is this?

ALT2: ... that in 1998, Chris Lewis led a strike on Usenet, but at least one volunteer refused to stop fighting spam? Source: Wired Cielquiparle (talk) 21:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: ... that in 1998, Chris Lewis and other volunteer despammers on Usenet went on a labor strike? Source: Wired ZDNet

I tried a variant as ALT3. Please have a look. Ktin (talk) 04:19, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: I think ALT3 is good, but without the word "a" before "strike". Cielquiparle (talk) 11:22, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for new reviewer to approve ALT2 and ALT3 (written by myself and the original DYK reviewer). Thanks in advance! Cielquiparle (talk) 11:22, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3 passes as cited and interesting :) I've made some tweaks on the links. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:37, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]