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'Christopher Maurice Brown (born May 5, 1989) is an American singer, songwriter, rapper, dancer, actor and family violence perpetrator.
A lot of people know Chris Brown as a result of his assaulting Rihanna. Further, in the case of individuals such as Harvey Weinstein, the description refers both to their profession and to their offending. It seems to me the same should be done here. To do otherwise may be to downplay the significance of Brown's offending. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.200.5.228 (talk) 07:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's VERY well known that Rihanna started the fight. She was hitting on him for most of the relationship and was also violent towards her family members:
As the title says. This is the the main thing Chris Brown is known for and it's barely mentioned in a single sentence in the lead. It should be discussed how to implement this into the lead. TheXuitts (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is a stretch to say that is main thing he is known for, he was widely known before the incident for his music and he still is mainly known for his music after. If you personally only know him for this, then I do believe you are in the minority. If you want to discuss adjustments to the lead feel free, but you aren't going to get many people to agree with your statement imo. WikiVirusC(talk)17:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am also uncomfortable with the way that his violence issues are treated in the article. I think the assertion that it's "the main thing he's known for" is a bit hyperbole and not really relevant to analyzing the treatment of domestic violence in the article. Hyperbolic pretention aside, I do find the treatment of the acts that he's responsible for is a bit lackluster and euphemistic.
In the lead:
> In 2009, Brown pled guilty to felony assault of his then-girlfriend, singer Rihanna.
Is in the middle of the second paragraph (I missed it on first read while specifically looking for it), and accounts for one sentence out of four paragraphs.
Furthermore, in the "Legal issues" section:
> At around 12:30 a.m. (PST) on February 8, 2009, Brown and his then-girlfriend, singer Rihanna, had an argument that escalated into physical violence, leaving Rihanna with visible severe facial injuries which required hospitalization.
So taking the same sentence, it's the "argument [... left] Rihanna with [severe injuries]", not Brown. While in fact, the physical violence and injuries were direct actions perpetrated by Brown. The second paragraph in the section will relate how Brown justified his actions are a result of his upbringing (and implicitly, not of his responsibility).
I understand that previous contributors have done the best that they could covering the subject, but I wish to highlight what I find lacking in the current verbiage in the hopes of finding a better way to document the topic on an important issue.
From an informal perusal of previous talk page comments, it seems several contributors have also expressed a level of discomfort with the way the subject is touched, without necessarily knowing precisely how to improve it as a practical matter, or how to do so in a way that makes some forms of consensus. I'm hoping we can find those ways to improve the article and to give the issue the treatment that it deserves. Bert Macklin (talk) 09:44, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There’s also a lack of any reference either in legal issues or personal life to the fact that he was served a 5 year restraining order for violence and threats against his ex partner Karrueche Tran. Sarcastathon (talk) 09:32, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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I would like to be able to edit the top section of his page to edit the number of records Chris has sold, as it has surpassed 217 million. There are some slight grammatical errors like capitalization that I would like to correct. The false accusations section is also lacking several cases. Blooey (talk) 14:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The artistry section says "On "Look At Me Now", "No Romeo No Juliet" and "Stranger Things" he displayed his ability of fast rapping." This is outdated and should be changed to 'On "Look at Me Now", "No Romeo No Juliet","Stranger Things", "Weakest Link" and "I Don't Die" he displayed his ability of fast-rapping.' Blooey (talk) 20:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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A Wikipedia page listing the world's best selling artists shows that he has 220 million units of certified sales so why can't we put THAT on his official page? Let's please change the figure from 140 million to 220 million since it's sourced by Wikipedia. Blooey (talk) 03:04, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tried numerous times to update this information with the relevant sources on the basis of due weight but it kept being reverted on the grounds of WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT. Ideally this information should be updated to reflect his update sales/certifications. But personally I will not be updating due to persistant edit warring over his factual sales/certifications tally. Someone else with extended confirmed access can/should update it. Instantwatym (talk) 17:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings! Will you be adding The 11:11 Tour details as you have for Chris Brown's other tours? I noticed the link isn't clickable yet and just wanted to inquire. Also wanted to take a moment to commend you on updating these! These are VERY HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE and I want to give a shout out to the creators! Keep up the great work! Thanks again!! 68.142.158.248 (talk) 19:57, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, I recall reading some article about a celebrity (EDIT: ah, Danny Masterson, who is also a Scientologist if I recall correctly), and in the "lead" it said, after him being whatever, "...and convicted felon" (because he is) (and now it says "...convicted rapist"). But for this fella, somehow, this is not the case, the "lead" does not mention it. Why?
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Not done It is unclear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if needed. Wiiformii (talk) 20:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – macaddct1984 (talk | contribs) 23:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Done – macaddct1984 (talk | contribs) 11:47, 19 July 2024 (UTC)