Talk:Cherry on Top (Bini song)

Cherry on Top (Bini song) was nominated as a Music good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (September 21, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Charts

Hello! I was wondering if I could include other charts for the song 'Cherry on Top,' such as iTunes and charts from other international countries where the song is available on Spotify and iTunes? Royiswariii (talk) 11:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not exactly sure about that since both iTunes and Spotify are listed under WP:BADCHARTS. I also don't see iTunes and Spotify being listed under charts of other song articles. AstrooKai (Talk • Contribs) 11:23, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I read the WP:BADCHARTS and i confirmed that Spofity and iTunes is in the bad charts. Well, that's kinda disappointed and unfortunate. Royiswariii (talk) 11:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you have reliable sources stating that the song charted on other countries, then you can place them under the Commercial performance section, as mentioned by @Freedom Wall. AstrooKai (Talk • Contribs) 11:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright this is noted.

Thanks for that information @Freedom Wall and you too @AstrooKai. Royiswariii (talk) 11:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean under the Charts section, then please check list of record charts as a guide for which charts to use. As far as I've seen on various articles, sometimes, notable achievements in Spotify, etc are added to the Commercial performance section. Freedom Wall (talk) 11:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article Nomination(?)

I'm planning to nominate this article to Good Article since it was citated properly, it complies on Manual of Style. However, there is a detecion of copyright on Copyright vio Detector which is maybe or maybe not immediate rejected on GA. I also nominate my own article Dilaw (song)

I'm inviting @AstrooKai and @Borgenland to be co-nomination on this article. Also, i'm inviting @Acrom12 (article creator) to participate on this GA nomination. Royiswariii (talk) 13:48, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Royiswariii! Thanks for considering nominating this article for GA. I see you are concerned about potential copyright violations of some of the article's content. After checking the article in Earwig's Copyvio Detector, 16.0% similarity was detected which I think is within the acceptable range. Similarities this small cannot be avoided since there will always be a similarity when using a source.

Other than that, no other concerns exist in the article that fall under WP:QF. However, I think the article still needs to be expanded in aspects of some sort before nominating it for GA. This will also give more room for improvement when the article is nominated. SB19's GA song "I Want You" may be used as guidance in improving this article. AstrooKai (Talk • Contribs) 15:22, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article should be more expanded. Since it needs more content, ~~I suggest nominating it~~ or just both nominate for WP:DYK. Royiswariii (talk) 03:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same as Astro. Tbh I do not have experience in GAN and Bini is also my first major foray into something beyond my usual WikiProjects. Borgenland (talk) 14:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can read the Wikipedia:Good article criteria. I've been familiar with the GA criteria since I nominated my article Dilaw (song) (which is currently under review). I think it's easier to achieve GA status than FA. But I think the first article to achieve GA status was Bini (group).

So what do you think? Royiswariii (talk) 14:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is indeed easier to promote an article to GA status than FA since promoting an article to GA is the first step in promoting it further to FA.

As for Bini (group), I initially planned to have it nominated for GAN since May 2024, which is why I have been actively working on the article since then. Having it be nominated for GAN was my initial goal, so I guess you can say that the significant contributions of mine were part of that process. AstrooKai (Talk • Contribs) 14:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will nominate the article Bini (group) maybe after my article Dilaw (song) evaluated or just tomorrow. I will acknowledge you (@AstrooKai), @Borgenland and @Acrom12 (article creator) as my co-nominator, Is that okay? Royiswariii (talk) 14:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For Cherry I think it's OK, for Dilaw it needs more verifiable and independent sources and some sentence restructuring to make it sound less WP:NEWSPAPER and WP:FANCRUFT. Borgenland (talk) 14:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As one of the significant contributors of Bini (group), I'm not sure if it's ready to be put up for GAN. AstrooKai (Talk • Contribs) 14:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's give it a shot, we will see the evaluation if there's wrong and we can fix it as soon as possible. Royiswariii (talk) 15:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Unsuccessful. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 23:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Cherry on Top (Bini song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Royiswariii (talk · contribs) 01:32, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: TheNuggeteer (talk · contribs) 10:31, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing this for the GA criteria. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 10:31, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, I don't think this article fits the GA criteria, because of the complete absence of sections. You can resolve my issues before re-nominating. But you should be careful when re-nominating.

The lead should have an additional 100 words.
Background should be longer, you can add the groups activities after 2023.
Is there more information on the recording? There are only two sentences about the recording, which does not help the current situation.
Add more information about the lyrics, I see no information about the lyrics.
Please put Promotion and release after Composition.
You can list the personnel on a specific section called Personnel, which can be put above charts.
Are there any certifications awarded to the song? I honestly think a 50-million-viewed video should have some certifications.
I suggest merging Commercial performance to Critical reception.
I see two YouTube sources meant for sourcing the promotion, is there any news articles about the promotion to replace the original?
You can use the template {{Single chart}} to cope the charts.
to great fan anticipation. This may not meet the NPOV.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 23:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.