Talk:Cherry Magic! Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?!
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:15, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
... that Cherry Magic! Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?! was originally a webcomic posted on the author's social media?Source: Anime News Network (link): "That said, Toyota (who started this online and was shocked to be offered a book deal) states that they do plan to make it sexier later on..."- ALT1:... that Cherry Magic! Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?! is the first boys' love series published in English by Square Enix? Source: Anime News Network (link): "1st boys-love manga Square Enix is publishing in English..."
Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 01:27, 20 October 2020 (UTC).
- New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen in online English-language sources. ALT1 is hooky, hook ref verified and cited inline. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Edit war
[edit]Based on the recent edits made, I do not believe there should be a separate list for the cast of the live-action drama. The cast is already listed in the parameters next to the cast for the drama CD and having it separate is not necessary. Furthermore the list also included non-notable characters that were not sourced. lullabying (talk) 03:17, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- The article created originally for the manga series, in my opinion, needs to be separated from the article for the televisions series since, there is a significant coverage for the television series for it to be considered as a separate article (In fact, the tv series has more coverage than the manga). Moreover, the storyline (the extent of it) and the significant characters involved between manga and the series are different, that is needs to be dealt separately. The user lullabying seems to have an opposing view. Thus I would like to get other's opinion in this matter, in particular, related to transferring relevant and additional materials to the page Cherry Magic! Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?! (TV series), which the aforementioned user merged previously with this page.2600:6C58:4B7F:6084:6189:21B3:AB73:498C (talk) 03:30, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- The original television article was merged to this section because of WP:WITHIN. If you want to create a separate article please create a draft. If there is "more coverage than the manga" you would need to show this. lullabying (talk)
- Yes, I will create a draft for the tv series page. But I also would like to get other's opinion on this2600:6C58:4B7F:6084:6189:21B3:AB73:498C (talk) 03:42, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I will create a draft for the tv series page. But I also would like other's opinion on this2600:6C58:4B7F:6084:6189:21B3:AB73:498C (talk) 03:42, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- I've already asked for input on WP:ANIME. You still haven't shown a source for the cast you added, not to mention that they are neither part of the lead nor secondary cast so they are not notable. lullabying (talk) 03:45, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hey. I do not believe that the separate article that lullabying redirected has enough coverage for a separate article. The page only had sources for the cast and release which can easily be put into this article. If you have more sources or things to expand it, a separate article could be okay, but in its current form, a separate article is not needed. Link20XX (talk) 03:47, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- I've already asked for input on WP:ANIME. You still haven't shown a source for the cast you added, not to mention that they are neither part of the lead nor secondary cast so they are not notable. lullabying (talk) 03:45, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I will create a draft for the tv series page. But I also would like other's opinion on this2600:6C58:4B7F:6084:6189:21B3:AB73:498C (talk) 03:42, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, in which case, I will create a draft article for the TV series first with reliable resources as I originally gathered informations from the TV Tokyo website.
- Just a note: TV Tokyo's website is a primary source and will not help in justifying coverage. If you want my advice, a long Reception section is the easiest way to show the TV series has the necessary coverage. Link20XX (talk) 04:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the input. I will look into that.2600:6C58:4B7F:6084:6189:21B3:AB73:498C (talk) 04:10, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- For a good example on when to split articles like this, I recommend checking out Alice in Borderland and Alice in Borderland (TV series). Link20XX (talk) 04:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- That is indeed a helpful example. Thanks. I will start working on the draft.2600:6C58:4B7F:6084:6189:21B3:AB73:498C (talk) 04:26, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- For a good example on when to split articles like this, I recommend checking out Alice in Borderland and Alice in Borderland (TV series). Link20XX (talk) 04:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the input. I will look into that.2600:6C58:4B7F:6084:6189:21B3:AB73:498C (talk) 04:10, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Just a note: TV Tokyo's website is a primary source and will not help in justifying coverage. If you want my advice, a long Reception section is the easiest way to show the TV series has the necessary coverage. Link20XX (talk) 04:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Splitting proposal
[edit]Please discuss below whether this page should be split into Cherry Magic! Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?! (manga) and Cherry Magic! Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?! (TV series), as proposed by Sunlitsky. Reason given by proposer:
Currently the article mainly focuses on the manga, although the TV series is also (significantly) notable. I have attempted long time ago to split, but someone objected. I still believe the TV series needs a separate article. If agreed, I will do the split with an improved version from the previous one.' Felix QW (talk) 13:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Sunlitsky: Do you already have a draft that shows significant coverage in reliable, independent sources? If so, this will certainly help overcome the issues brought up in the previous discussion in the section above this one.
- Also pinging Link20XX and lullabying that took part in the previous discussion (the IP is unfortunately not ping-able, and has not edited since). Felix QW (talk) 13:49, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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