Talk:Charles de Gaulle's trip to South America

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... that when Charles de Gaulle visited Rio de Janeiro, the city's governor refused to greet his ship due to the recent Lobster War?

Source: "L'invitation avait été renouvelée par le maréchal CASTELO BRANCO, mais, au moment du voyage, la situation intérieure brésilienne est tendue. En mors, un différend auquel on a donné lenom de «guerre de la langouste» a opposé la Fronce et le Brésil. L'ambassadeur de France, J. BAEYENS rappelé en consultation à Paris, n'est pas revenu. La France n'a pas répondu à une demande d'agrément en faveur de l'ambassadeur Leitào do CUNHA. Des représailles brésiliennes contre les Alliances Françaises duBrésil sont même un moment envisagées. De GAULLE aurait alors prononcé cette phrase assassine que l'onvous ressert malicieusement ou amèrement sons cesse ou Brésil «Comme le disait votre grand président, le Brésil n'est pas un pays sérieux!», Ces paroles seraient en fait, paraît-il, celles d'un membre del'Ambassade duBrésil en fronce, lancées dons un moment d'exaspération... On ne soit plus. Toujours est-il que les relations franco-brésiliennes s'étaient détériorées. Le Gouverneur de Rio deJaneiro, Carlos LACERDA décide deboycotter l'arrivée dugénéral dons sa ville etc'est le président de la République brésilienne qui doit aller accueillir son hôte à l'arrivée du «Colbert» dons la plus fameuse rode dumonde" Leprun (1994), p. 12

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Created by Sintropepe (talk) and Kimdime (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 00:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Overall: Can you provide a quotation from the source linking the refusal to the lobster war, so it can be translated and verified? The article makes frequent opinion statements and makes liberal use of opinion adjectives. I think greater attribution in the article of who is stating such opinions is necessary. Also, inline citations are missing from the ends of the following paragraphs:

"By 1964, France had essentially completed..."
"De Gaulle arrived in Mexico on..."
"Francia trata de ayudar..."
"He was greeted by President Belaúnde Terry..."
"Peruanos, Francia, tierra..."
"The following day..."
"On 6 October, the President..."
"Brazil was not initially on the French..."
"In the short term..."
"The Colombian government gave various..."

Ergo Sum 03:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

here is a quotation : "Le Gouverneur de Rio de Janeiro, Carlos LACERDA décide de boycotter l'arrivée du général dons sa ville et c'est le président de la République brésilienne qui doit aller accueillir son hôte à l'arrivée du «Colbert»" rough translation : " Rio's Governor, Carlos Lacerda decided to boycott the General's arrival in the city, so instead the President of the Republic had to meet his host when the Colbert arrived" Kimdime (talk) 08:58, 4 November 2024 (UTC) The link to the Lobster war is made on the previous paragraph (p.12 of the same source)Kimdime (talk) 09:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding inline (= online I guess ?) citations, well, that's the point, some stuff isn't available online and still has to be found in paper sources, in libraries, I tend to think that this is one of the added values of the work that has been done for this article. If I had relied only on online sources, I would not had been able to write the original article.Kimdime (talk) 09:49, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I meant inline as in WP:INLINE. Every paragraph must end in a citation. Ergo Sum 16:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ergo Sum, I didn't know about this en:wp jargon. Yet I'm not sure to understand what you mean. Let's take one example : "De Gaulle arrived in Mexico on...". Could you specify what' missing there ? Kimdime (talk) 11:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That paragraph does not have an inline citation at the end of it. As with the others. I suspect you could reuse the inline citation at the end of the following block quotation paragraph, but I have not examined the sources. Ergo Sum 16:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ergo Sum I don't get it, it does have a reference at the end of the paragraph which is : Gruat (2010, pp. 119–132).Kimdime (talk) 11:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There should be one following "has gone down in history" in addition to following "en la mano." Ergo Sum 12:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sintropepe, Kimdime, and Dan Leonard: I have added "citation needed" to text that need a citation. These will need to be addressed before this can be promoted. Z1720 (talk) 16:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Txs for the translation

I'm delighted to see that this article that I wrote some time ago has now been translated in English. Thank you @Sintropepe and the other users that proofread the translation :) Kimdime (talk) 08:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help @Kimdime. I see that the article needs improvements and that you and the community are taking care of that. If you need help, let me know. Since you are the original author and you master the sources for this topic, I'll leave this inline citations improvements to you. But again: I'm available to help if needed.

Sintropepe (talk) 18:04, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]