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A fact from Charles Tottenham, 8th Marquess of Ely appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 July 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a member of the House of Lords was the principal of a Canadian junior school?

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The result was: promoted by Hey man im josh talk 13:41, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that an English-born peer was the principal of a Canadian junior school?

Source: "TCS mourns loss of revered former principal". Northumberland News. 3 February 2006. Retrieved 6 July 2024. In 1941, he was appointed head of Boulden House, the junior school at TCS, ... the former junior school headmaster also held the title of Most Honourable, the Eighth Marquess of Ely ... .

ALT1: ... that a member of the House of Lords was the principal of a Canadian junior school? Source: "TCS mourns loss of revered former principal". Northumberland News. 3 February 2006. Retrieved 6 July 2024. In 1941, he was appointed head of Boulden House, the junior school at TCS, ... the former junior school headmaster also held the title of Most Honourable, the Eighth Marquess of Ely ... .
ALT2: ... that Charles Tottenham, 8th Marquess of Ely, did not use his titles while in Canada? Source: Cahill, Jack (27 November 1983). "Lords and Ladies -- of Ontario". Toronto Star. Toronto, Ontario, Canada. p. D2. Retrieved 1 July 2024 – via Newspapers.com. Lord Ely doesn't use the title at all in Canada ... .
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Created by Roc0ast3r (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

RONIN TALK 20:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Roc0ast3r, interesting article; review follows: article created 6 July and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources for the subject matter; I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck on sources; hooks are interesting, mentioned in the article and check out to the sources cited; a QPQ is not required. Looks fine to me, nice work - Dumelow (talk) 07:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Charles Tottenham, 8th Marquess of Ely/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Roc0ast3r (talk · contribs) 02:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 22:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The coat of arms images are appropriately tagged. Sources are reliable. Spotchecks (footnote numbers refer to this version):

FN 11 cites "they married on 28 December in the Chapel of the Royal Hospital Chelsea". Verified.
FN 12 cites "In 1965, Tottenham was second in line to become Marquess of Ely. Upon the death of Guy Alvo Greville Loftus, Tottenham became the heir apparent." Verified.
FN 3 cites "At the Royal Military College of Canada, Tottenham became an assistant librarian and French teacher. He soon worked as a translator at an insurance company before being employed as a language teacher at Trinity College School in Port Hope, Ontario." Verified, but why "soon"?
- Modified to "later". RONIN TALK 01:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spotcheck passes. I'll read through the content next and post any comments below. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig finds no issues. I just have one suggestion from a read-through:

Tottenham was entitled to sit in the House of Lords until 1999 because of his subsidiary title of Baron Loftus. I don't think a casual reader will understand that that means that the subsidiary title is not in the Peerage of Ireland. It's such a short article that you don't want a digression about this in the body of the article, but how about adding a footnote that explains that the lower title was in the Peerage of England?

The above is a minor point and I'm not going to hold up GA over it; up to you if you want to make that change. I'll go ahead and pass this now. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! For your suggestion, I think that the current text explains that: In the Peerage of the United Kingdom, the Marquess of Ely is concurrently Baron Loftus, entitling the Marquess to a seat in the House of Lords. As a result, Tottenham sat in the House as Baron Loftus ..., but I agree that the sentence might not be the most clear. I went ahead and changed that sentence. RONIN TALK 15:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]