Talk:Central Jail Rawalpindi

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Requested move 3 February 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 11:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

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Central Jail Rawalpindi → Adiala Jail – WP:COMMONNAME: A lot more sources for Adiala Jail than Central Jail Rawalpindi Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 22:36, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

• This seems OK in principle but it should probably be Adiala jail not Jail, per MOS:CAPS as it's not consistently capitalized in sources.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

  I would disagree with this. Clearly a proper name, even if not the official name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

  Adiala Jail is frequently referred to as a complete name, so my interpretation is that if "Jail" is included in the name, it should be capitalized. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 21:39, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

  Sure, it's sometimes capitalised, but the bar for treating something as a proper name in MOS:CAPS is that it be "consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of reliable sources". In fact, we see a very mixed bag. Ngrams show a slight lead for capitalised version, but nowhere near that substantial majority bar. And sources not capitalising jail include these: [1][2][3]. I suspect that because it is the common name, but not the official name, many sources are simply treating it as a descriptive noun rather than a proper noun.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:54, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

  I notice that many sources capitalize "Jail," and since we already have a redirect for it, all we need to do is transfer the current page to that redirect. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:54, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

  When some source use caps and others don't, Wikipedia prefers WP:LOWERCASE. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:31, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

  Okay, let's use "Adiala jail." Also, take into account how other jail articles are named on Wikipedia. If most of them are capitalized, I'll still advocate for capitalization. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

  If moved at all, I still support Adiala Jail. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support move to Adiala Jail per Necrothesp and SheriffIsInTown (the proposer). Adiala Jail is the common title. HistoriesUnveiler (talk) 16:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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