Talk:Catacombs of Jajce

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Close paraphrasing in Jajce Catacombs

In reference to the raw architectural description of the Jajce Catacombs floor plan(s), which constitute bulleted part of the sub-section Description, should fall under, and is explained with WP:LIMITED.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 08:39, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Onel5969: I have published under WP:LIMITED and the first, and probably only thing that was possible to do, I broke their (source) text into bullited list of raw architectural description of the floor plan. But obviously you didn't look at TP and my few months old post here, or if have you remained unresponsive to my argument. I rv-ed your template for now, but if you can use TP and point to phrases which could fall outside WP:LIMITED and be improved, I am all open for suggestions.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 18:18, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I know it's a struggle taking existing descriptions and parsing them enough to satisfy the non-copyvio rule, but the architectural description is way too closely paraphrased from "The Narthex is a narrow..." through the end of the section. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:11, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My post went through edit-conflict.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 18:20, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Onel5969: it is not struggle, it is impossible - why don't you try rephrasing, say, one point, at least first item in the bulleted list, show me how would you do it.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 18:24, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

By the way it's not copy-vivo, obviously, I have broke their text and some sentence.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 18:26, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @RJFJR:, is it not one template about the same thing enough, not to mention that template in the article hat also concerns only Architectural description section, but was placed in the hat (except that particular section, there are no other paraphrasing problems, thus the title template should have been placed under the section title). Problem with a prose is quiet simple, as argued above, it is impossible to rephrased it any differently - it's just simple, raw, architectural description of the floor plane, no creative expression, words or phrases, metaphors, ideas - admittedly it is a bit long, but it's sheer technical description. But, nevermind that, do we really need it tagged twice, not to mention first template being misplaced at the top when it concerns same section?--౪ Santa ౪^99° 19:55, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I put the prose template on the section because I don't like the format using bullets, but just bullets vs no-bullets doesn't change whether it is a copy-vio. (I wasn't sure which parts were copy-vios so I put the prose tag on.) RJFJR (talk) 04:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]