Talk:Cashiering

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Hazing

Replacing the information I submitted with a redirect to a quite different phenomenon seems to me unhelpful, and not in the spirit of building up Wikipedia. Hazing describes neither of the senses of the term as submitted. (by User:Scbomber)

Quite right. I didn't read the article carefully enough. Rklawton 19:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other implications

I believe that in the British Army, the initial distinction between cashiering and other forms of being dismissed the service was that in being cashiered the officer lost the price of his commision as well. I'll try to dig out some sources. David Underdown 08:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note that this interpretation conflicts with the derivation from the Middle Dutch casseren, kaseeren "to cast off, discharge," from French casser "to discharge, annul," from Late Latin cassare "annul," from Latin cassus "void, empty", if one believes several online etymology sources: https://www.etymonline.com/word/cashier, http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cashiered, http://www.wordreference.com/definition/cashier. I'm suspicious that the other meaning of cashier ("keeper of the money box") has influenced the interpretation, although it's plausible enough that I'd be happy to be proved wrong. Leifbennett (talk) 00:05, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Related to etymology Websters Dictionary lists the identifies the original origin of the word to the French "casser" to discharge or annul. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cashier. I see also the online etymology diction also confirms this and its origin from latin. https://www.etymonline.com/word/cashier#etymonline_v_5438 CactusHills (talk) 02:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cashiering in other media

Surely there should be a mention of cashiering done in other films and TV shows aside from Branded? Two examples that come to mind immediately is the Married … With Children episode where Al gets hired as a security guard at Polk High School and is fired after one day with his uniform ripped apart (with a drummer playing the tune of Branded, incidentally) in front of the whole school; and the scene in Mary Poppins when Mr. Banks is fired — the top of his top hat is knocked out, his boutonniere is crushed, his umbrella ruined, and his shirt-collar is ripped. Are they worth mentioning? Or is that bordering on trivia? --MicahBrwn (talk) 18:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the standard is whether the appearance in film, etc, brought some discussion. if not, then its trivia. for example, while the bugs cartoon appearance is probably not notable, an example of bugs bunny chewing on a carrot is absolutely not notable, as chewing, or carrot ingestion, doesnt need every example listed. I would be inclined to say that the mary poppins incident is notable, as it was a highly notable film and the event was an exaggerated use of the ritual.but properly speaking, wed need a movie review that said "hey, that cashiering scene was awesome/brutal/stupid".(mercurywoodrose)66.80.6.163 (talk) 23:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cashed Out

I heard the term "cashed out" on NCIS: Los Angeles, referring to a 'bad guy' who had left military service and was doing mercenary work (or contract killing.) Is it likely they were using a shortened reference to a dishonorable discharge as in the context of this article, or is the term used for any veteran who reaches the end of their military service? I guess the second option might be common usage as in a gambling or similar context, they take their accrued back pay.68.12.225.100 (talk) 01:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gen. George S. Patton?

Why is a link to his Wiki entry in the See Also section?

Historical question

Reading an annotated 18th century listing of captains - there is reference to 'breaking' some at a military court, as distinct from cashiering (as a couple are listed as having been) them. I presume it was the swords that were broken - was it a lesser punishment or what? Jackiespeel (talk) 18:13, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is an archaic term but in this context means to dismiss a military or naval officer from the service. Alternatively he could be demoted to a lower rank. It was his career or position that was broken, not his sword - though that could well be part of an accompanying ceremony of degradation. Buistr (talk) 19:22, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So what is the difference between being 'broke' (the word used) at a court martial and being cashiered? (The numbers in both cases were a very small fraction of the total.) For non-military-historians the sword #is# the most obvious thing that could be broken. Jackiespeel (talk) 22:44, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That reminds me of a line in "Seven Days in May" movie, where Colonel "Jiggs" Casey is warned that he could be broken right out of the service for what he had said and done.

I came to this Wikipedia article from that of Adam Stephen, of American Revolution time, having looked up that article because of his being from Virginia.

And the degradation ceremony turns up in a fictitional setting: The TV show "Branded". Carlm0404 (talk) 05:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas MacArthur? Cashiered?

No evidence for this, vandalism? Igsaturation (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Probably just a misunderstanding (he was relieved of command by President Truman, but of course that's entirely different from cashiering). I've removed it. JBritnell (talk) 16:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]