Talk:Carla Ortiz

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Birth date

Right from the first version this article says she was born both in 1976 and 1985! PamD (talk) 09:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Syria

Text on Syria has been removed as "controversial", citing BLP. It seems that this element of her life is notable - it has been one of her main activities in recent years. The removed text could have been written more encyclopedically, so I propose something like the following edited version:

During the Syrian Civil War, the actress has sided with the government of Bashar al-Assad, with several "chaperoned"^[1] visits to the country, which she has reported in videos widely disseminated by pro-government, pro-Kremlin and conspiracy theory outlets such as Sputnik, Russia Today, One America News Network and GlobalResearch, as well as by the Daily Express, Telesur and the Jimmy Dore show.^[2]^[3]^[4] BobFromBrockley (talk) 09:46, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://pulsemedia.org/2017/08/22/did-a-kremlin-pilgrimage-cause-alternet-bloggers-damascene-conversion/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
^ Fact checking Carla Ortiz's claims on White Helmets and Aleppo in Syrian civil war, WikiTribune
^ http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/syrien-russlands-feldzug-gegen-die-wahrheit-a-1184533.html. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
^ Muhammad Idrees Ahmad Syria: on academic freedom and responsibility OpenDemocracy 26 April 2018

References 1 and 4 are of questionable reliability; reference 2 is definitely not. Giant Snowman 09:49, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources 1 and 4 are far more reliable and neutral than the source "AgoraVox" present in the article, which is not acceptable by Wikipedia standards at all, but conspirationnist ! If you consider them containing also opinions, they are written by acknowledged journalists, and are true, not any reliable sources denied what they say, Carla Ortiz didn't attack them for defamation, nor anything. I disagree with the fact that you erased everything while you acknowledge that the Spiegel is perfectly reliable. I didn't add The Syria Campaign in the sources because for this one, it is clearly engaged and not neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FromNewsToEncyclopedia (talk • contribs) 10:04, 27 July 2018 (UTC) [reply]

AgoraVox also removed. You have bot dealt with the issues at hand. Giant Snowman 10:09, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Great that AgoraVox was removed. But the sentence now in Controversy is not true. It is not Der Spiegel who "accuses" her. FromNewsToEncyclopedia (talk) 12:02, 27 July 2018 (UTC)~~[reply]

Err yes it does - Der Spiegel says "Carla Ortiz posten Propaganda" or "Carla Ortiz posts propaganda". Giant Snowman 12:13, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note that I struck out comments from block-evading sockpuppet account, FromNewsToEncyclopedia. --Yamla (talk) 13:22, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://pulsemedia.org/2017/08/22/did-a-kremlin-pilgrimage-cause-alternet-bloggers-damascene-conversion/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

[2] Fact checking Carla Ortiz's claims on White Helmets and Aleppo in Syrian civil war, WikiTribune

[3] ttp://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/syrien-russlands-feldzug-gegen-die-wahrheit-a-1184533.html. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

[4] Muhammad Idrees Ahmad Syria: on academic freedom and responsibility OpenDemocracy 26 April 2018

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