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A fact from Carl Etelman appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 January 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in his final collegiate game, Tufts University football player Carl Etelman kicked a field goal with a broken ankle?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carl Etelman.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that in his final collegiate game, Tufts University football player Carl Etelman kicked a field goal with a broken ankle? Source: Thomas, Buddy (February 6, 2004). "Looking Back: Carl Etelman, unstoppable force". The Standard-Times. ("Nobody gave his leg a thump until the final game of the season. It was a hard enough thump to break the same ankle again. But Etelman refused to leave the game and two plays later he successfully drop-kicked a 40-yard field goal before being carried off the field.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bruce Davis (offensive tackle)
- Comment: The large quote in the "Early life and education" section is in the public domain as it was published prior to 1926.

Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:01, 31 December 2021 (UTC).[reply]

New enough, long enough. Hook is interesting, but I cant see the "game-winning" in the sources. (They also disagree on 40 versus 48 yards). Doesn't smell like copyvio, but I can't seem to be able to check Earwig right now. Looks reasonably well cited, but you could try to combine some of the multiple citations to the same source. QPQ has been done. Should be good to go once the "game winning" issue is sorted one way or another. —Kusma (talk) 12:52, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Kusma: I thought I read that it was the game-winner, but I guess I misread. It was the margin of victory, but it was made early in the game per [1]. I've changed the hook accordingly. Which references should I combine? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:32, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @BeanieFan11: Sorry about that – I think there were some refs that looked identical yesterday, and now they don't. Or I am going crazy. Anyway, happy with the modified hook. —Kusma (talk) 15:17, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 01:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Carl Etelman/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 01:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'll review this article. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 01:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments are below, I'll do another pass through and look at sources once these are resolved. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:27, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead and infobox

"Whitman High School" can be linked to Whitman-Hanson Regional High School in both the lead and infobox.
"He also played professionally in the" → might also want to link "professionally" to Professional gridiron football

Early life and education

"He attended Fairhaven High School and Academy, graduating in 1920" → switches from past tense to present tense after the comma
"He was team captain as a senior, playing the quarterback position in football" → he is stated as a team captain and then the sport is named, so I'd switch this order ("In football, he was a team captain as a senior and played the quarterback position" or something similar)
"eventually fought his way into the end zone" → link End zone
"He collapsed onto the field after reaching the goal line" → link Goal line (gridiron football)
"that he fractured his ankle and injured his collarbone" → wouldn't hurt to link Ankle fracture and clavicle here, I suppose
This might boil down to personal opinion, but I feel the Woodard quote is a bit long and doesn't need to be reproduced here in its entirety. I think it would read much better if it was integrated into the prose as some of the quotes beforehand are, or at least shortened a bit. The second paragraph isn't needed at all IMO since you describe that incident in prose the paragraph prior.
"but stayed in the game and two plays later kicked a 40-yard field goal and was carried off the field" → fine content-wise but a little repetitive (emphasis is mine), perhaps reword the last bit to say "...but stayed in the game and kicked a 40-yard field goal two plays later, after which he was carried off the field" or something similar.

Professional career

Whitman High School can be linked again here since this is the first mention in the article's body
"Etelman's play was described as, "the game's feature."" → comma after "as" is unneeded
"He wore number 14 with the Steam Roller" → uncited; just use the same footnote again as the previous sentence since that information comes from the Pro FB Reference page

Coaching career

"of the 1934 season, and since then. Whitman has gone unbeaten and untied" → period after "then" should be a comma per the source
"turning many a seeming defeat into a victory with his skill and daring" → this quote is also used in the previous section, I think it would be best to use it only once, or at least to use it only once as a direct quotation

Personal life and death

"the finance chairman of the local Republican Party" → link Republican Party (United States)
- @PCN02WPS: Thanks for the review. I think I've made all the changes you've suggested. Let me know if there's anything else you want me to do. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:09, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @BeanieFan11: awesome, I think we're good as far as I can tell! All of the references look good to me and the one image used is clearly relevant (a picture of the article's subject itself), is public domain, and has a suitable caption. Happy to give this a pass and to say thank you for all you do for historical CFB on Wikipedia! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 01:20, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.