Talk:Carbonated soda treatment of phytobezoars

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Shouldn't this be deleted for lack of notability?

It seems more like a puff piece for a commercial product. Gnuish (talk) 06:27, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article meets the standard of notability. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:07, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of sections

I have removed four sections of the article (see below) that are either vacuous, irrelevant, or both.

Manufacturing: The popularity of the Coca-Cola brand has nothing to do with its use as a bezoar treatment.
Society and culture: The fact that the topic of the article is notable is not, in itself, a useful piece of information.
Recreational use: Same as manufacturing, Coca-Cola's non-medicinal use is not relevant to this article.
Research: This one is debatable, but a statement saying that "further investigation has been encouraged" could be applied to pretty much any science and medicine topic so I deleted this one as well.

If anyone disagrees with this reasoning, please discuss here. 2601:644:2:B64B:DCDA:DD35:EC9F:F831 (talk) 07:36, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Manufacturing

Coca-Cola is the best-selling soft drink in most countries, and was recognized as the number one global brand in 2010.^[1]

Society and culture

With increasing frequency, unusual cases of phytobezoars are reported in the news, along with the information about treatment with Coca-Cola.^[2]^[3]^[4]

Recreational use

Coca-Cola's primary use is recreational and its medicinal use is of recent origin.^[5] It has been described as the 'first energy drink'.^[6]

Research

The protocol for the treatment of phytobezoars with Coca-Cola, i.e., dosage and timing, has not been standardized; further investigation has been encouraged.^[5]

References

^ "Best Global Brands Ranking for 2010". Interbrand.com. Retrieved July 29, 2012.
^ "Urban Legends Of Your Digestive Tract". Huffington Post. Retrieved 2015-07-10.
^ "Bizarre blog about medical bezoars". Dallas Morning News. September 26, 2014. Retrieved 2015-07-10.
^ "Coca-cola recommended as 'medical cure' for stomach blockages". The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 2015-07-12.
^ ^a ^b Iwamuro M.; Okada H.; Matsueda K.; Inaba T.; Kusumoto C.; Imagawa A.; Yamamoto K. (2015). "Review of the diagnosis and management of gastrointestinal bezoars". World Journal of Gastrointestinal Endoscopy. 7 (4): 336–345. doi:10.4253/wjge.v7.i4.336.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)
^ "Gatorade to Geritol, all claim to put pep in your step". The Philadelphia Tribune. Retrieved 2015-07-12.

Merge with phytobezoar

Should this not be merged with phytobezoar? Samir 02:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

no. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 21:17, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Moved here

"You crack me up! Only Coca-Cola dissolves phytobezoars, not pepsi, not mountain dew. This claim is in the refs" by User:Barbara (WVS)

Comments go on the talk page.

If you look at this 2016 textbook is says "Carbonated soda (e.g., Coca Cola) may be effective in the dissolution of over 50% of cases of phytobezoars and over 90% when combined with endoscopic methods"[1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:06, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And other refs 'say' that other carbonated drinks do not dissolve phytobezoars. I have a quote from one source that is a pun with the word pepsi in it that is an illustration. Besides, beer and wine don't dissolve bezoars and I'll bet a lot of med students have tried this treatment prophylactically.Regards,Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:11, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided a direct link to the source I used. Can you list the other sources when you are discussing them. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:14, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well when I get my library card working again we can play "Who has the best references". Best Regards and with respect,Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:36, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sure no worries. There is no deadline. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:46, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Accuracy of paraphrasing

I am not sure how this ref [2] supported "The use of Coca-Cola is often the primary treatment recommended to dissolve phytobezoars"?

The ref says "Smaller bezoars may be treated with conservative medical management; usually this consists of a liquid diet for a short period of time and a prokinetic agent to promote gastric emptying... Carbonated soda (e.g., Coca Cola) may be effective in the dissolution of over 50% of cases of phytobezoars and over 90% when combined with endoscopic methods." Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:18, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway have adjusted Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:18, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

History

In your edit history you mentioned that the article is not about the medicinal history of Coca-Cola. Well yes it is, because there is no content on WP on this topic and this is the only place for it at this time.Regards,Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Would belong on the page about Coca Cola. This article is about "treatment of phytobezoars". It is not about a general history of the medical use of Coca Cola. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:43, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Best Global Brands Ranking for 2010". Interbrand.com. Retrieved July 29, 2012.

[2] "Urban Legends Of Your Digestive Tract". Huffington Post. Retrieved 2015-07-10.

[3] "Bizarre blog about medical bezoars". Dallas Morning News. September 26, 2014. Retrieved 2015-07-10.

[4] "Coca-cola recommended as 'medical cure' for stomach blockages". The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 2015-07-12.

[Iwamuro2015-5] Iwamuro M.; Okada H.; Matsueda K.; Inaba T.; Kusumoto C.; Imagawa A.; Yamamoto K. (2015). "Review of the diagnosis and management of gastrointestinal bezoars". World Journal of Gastrointestinal Endoscopy. 7 (4): 336–345. doi:10.4253/wjge.v7.i4.336.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

[6] "Gatorade to Geritol, all claim to put pep in your step". The Philadelphia Tribune. Retrieved 2015-07-12.

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