Talk:Campolina
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Moved hidden comments on color from article
[edit]This sounds like a trait found in many dun-colored horses, may want to check the dun gene and primitive markings articles to verify- Montanabw
- Except that primitive markings are genetic patterns that horses are born with, not sun-bleaching/coloring, which is what this paragraph is attributing the markings to, so it really needs a ref.- Dana boomer
- This trait is really striking in this breed under the conditions mentioned above. It could be striken but, perhaps there is a more suitable wording?-Amazona1
- Moving this from the main page as it's getting a little long there. The information on the primitive markings doesn't need to be striken, just needs a reference that mentions this trait for this breed...basically the same thing as the rest of the fact tags that have been put on the article. In reality, information shouldn't be added until it has a ref, but we're playing catch up on a lot of the horse articles, so it's not really a big deal at this point. Where did you get all of the information from, Amazona1, (not just the color, but the really detailed breed description), if you don't mind me asking? Dana boomer (talk) 22:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- This trait is really striking in this breed under the conditions mentioned above. It could be striken but, perhaps there is a more suitable wording?-Amazona1
- Based on previous edits, some of the "traits" are not explained properly...the original edits of Amazona1 suggest that they are made either by someone for whom English is not a first language or someone who doesn't know a lot about horses in general and confuses traits of horses in general with those unique to the breed. Hair coat bleaching can make light and dark colors more obvious in some cases. So can shedding out a winter coat. The point is, primitive markings are a feature of dun coloring. Period. They are NOT going to occur in any horse that doesn't have a dun factor of some sort. Sun bleaching won't "cause" them if they don't already have the underlying hair coloration. Sorry to be fussy about this. In theory, it's possible, that, like the Fjord horse, ALL members of the breed are actually dun and that aficionados just use unusual terminology (just like the Fjord crowd calls a grullo a "gray" when it isn't at all, genetically) Sources will solve this. (Which breed was it that claimed they had "biscuit duns"? Which was a dun with a cream gene, basically...)Montanabw(talk) 23:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well, we already have it sourced that Campolina's do come in dun. Should we just append to the color sentence that dun horses occasionally have primitive markings, add a generic source (Sponenburg, etc), and leave it at that...without saying specifically that Campolinas do or do not have that trait? Dana boomer (talk) 00:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Some kind of weaseling works for me (LOL!)..given that the article is kind of light on sources anyway, maybe say something in the color list like" ...dun, including primitive markings..." and just cut the whole bit about bleaching. Montanabw(talk) 05:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well, we already have it sourced that Campolina's do come in dun. Should we just append to the color sentence that dun horses occasionally have primitive markings, add a generic source (Sponenburg, etc), and leave it at that...without saying specifically that Campolinas do or do not have that trait? Dana boomer (talk) 00:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Based on previous edits, some of the "traits" are not explained properly...the original edits of Amazona1 suggest that they are made either by someone for whom English is not a first language or someone who doesn't know a lot about horses in general and confuses traits of horses in general with those unique to the breed. Hair coat bleaching can make light and dark colors more obvious in some cases. So can shedding out a winter coat. The point is, primitive markings are a feature of dun coloring. Period. They are NOT going to occur in any horse that doesn't have a dun factor of some sort. Sun bleaching won't "cause" them if they don't already have the underlying hair coloration. Sorry to be fussy about this. In theory, it's possible, that, like the Fjord horse, ALL members of the breed are actually dun and that aficionados just use unusual terminology (just like the Fjord crowd calls a grullo a "gray" when it isn't at all, genetically) Sources will solve this. (Which breed was it that claimed they had "biscuit duns"? Which was a dun with a cream gene, basically...)Montanabw(talk) 23:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Coloration Images
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Male_Stallion, 2 years -
Male stallion, silver
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Black Campolina male 2 years -
Campolina head in profile, (male)
Put coding for images which Amazona01 (talk) is working on adding. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 03:10, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've added the images back in, scattered throughout the article. The file names weren't working because of a variety of naming issues, which should be now fixed. Galleries are discouraged by MOS, but the images can be placed throughout, as I have them now. Feel free to move around as much as you want, I just kind of dropped them in various sections. Dana boomer (talk) 14:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)