Talk:Cameron Bairstow
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[edit]The NBA Draft Combine numbers list Bairstow at 6-10, 252 lbs -- more specifically, 6-9.75. This is what he measured on May 15: "At the combine in May, Bairstow measured better than many expected. He was listed as 6-9 throughout his college career at New Mexico but measured at the NBA combine in Chicago on May 15 at 6-9¾." The link included in reverting this doesn't seem to have any height listed. This is the most recent measurement, stated by reliable sources, and it is the official height listed by the NBA now. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 04:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes this does, scroll down to the bottom. Besides, all that basically does not matter. When it comes does to it, the official source is NBA.com and we have to draw the line at what the height/weight source is. abqjournal.com is not an official source. ESPN also list 6'9", 250 lb as does his summer league profile [1]. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:58, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- Also, DraftExpress does not overrule NBA.com. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:00, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- The Albuquerque Journal is a reliable source. Does WikiProject Basketball state that NBA.com is "the official source"? For we have a specific statement from a reliable source that the most up to date measurement is 6-10, and an explanation that he has grown since his previous listing at 6-9. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 05:12, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- And here is an NBA.com cite corroborating the 6-9.75, 252 measurements. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 05:23, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well NBA.com is the basis for all NBA player articles' heights/weights – that's the NBA's website, what could be more "official"? There has always been this type of argument though e.g. Giannis Antetokounmpo. His NBA.com profile [2] states 6'9" 205 lb but following the 2013–14 season, a report came out about how he had grown to 6'11". This was obviously going to be changed by IPs/new users and I fought it off until the Bucks' summer league roster listed him as 6'11" 217 lb. It's not his official profile, but it is still NBA.com. Yes, NBA.com has always been scrutinised about how they don't update their profiles often enough, but we can't just go completely against it just because a random source states otherwise. It's honestly not that big of a deal to list him as 6'10", but going with what NBA.com has is the correct thing to do. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:27, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- And the link I posted above, to NBA.com, specifically shows that the general profile is not up to date as the measurements taken in May are clearly more accurate. So we have a number of reliable sources, including NBA.com itself, listing him at 6-10 and explaining that he has grown since the 6-9 listing. You are elevating one source, a profile that you acknowledge may not be up to date, over other clearly reliable and more recent sources, including a portion of the NBA.com site that clearly is more up to date than the profile page. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 05:40, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well NBA.com is the basis for all NBA player articles' heights/weights – that's the NBA's website, what could be more "official"? There has always been this type of argument though e.g. Giannis Antetokounmpo. His NBA.com profile [2] states 6'9" 205 lb but following the 2013–14 season, a report came out about how he had grown to 6'11". This was obviously going to be changed by IPs/new users and I fought it off until the Bucks' summer league roster listed him as 6'11" 217 lb. It's not his official profile, but it is still NBA.com. Yes, NBA.com has always been scrutinised about how they don't update their profiles often enough, but we can't just go completely against it just because a random source states otherwise. It's honestly not that big of a deal to list him as 6'10", but going with what NBA.com has is the correct thing to do. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:27, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- And here is an NBA.com cite corroborating the 6-9.75, 252 measurements. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 05:23, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- The Albuquerque Journal is a reliable source. Does WikiProject Basketball state that NBA.com is "the official source"? For we have a specific statement from a reliable source that the most up to date measurement is 6-10, and an explanation that he has grown since his previous listing at 6-9. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 05:12, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok, you seem very keen to have him listed as 6'10" so I'm going to give in. I don't really mind, you make a valid argument. It's just that, this may be the case for a lot of player articles on Wikipedia – NBA.com lists something that's not "up-to-date". It's just a lot simpler and easier to go with what the NBA.com profile says. Who knows, maybe the NBA just lists the rookies by their college bios and hasn't taken into consideration changes like this – perhaps it will be updated at some point. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- His official, listed height and weight with the Chicago Bulls is 6'9, 250. His measurables with his current team are his "listed" height and weight that go on the article. Please do not deviate from this unless his listed height/weight with current club changes. Rikster2 (talk) 03:16, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Date style
[edit]Not only is his pro career in the US, but every source in that section uses mdy, including the Australian one. In fact, all the Aussie cites on the page use mdy, except for ABC.au, as do all the US cites. I'm not going to change the cites, but there is no reason to deviate from the mdy format, especially on the US sources. Also the Albuquerque Journal is a newspaper, not a web site. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 04:16, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
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